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HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes P&Z 112701• • CITY OF PALM BEACH GARDENS PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION November 27, 2001 MINUTES The Regular Meeting of the Planning and Zoning Commission of the City of Palm Beach Gardens, Florida, was called to order by Chair Dennis Solomon at 6:00 P.M. in the Council Chambers of the Municipal Complex, 10500 North Military Trail, Palm Beach Gardens, Florida, and opened with the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag. REPORT BY GROWTH MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR Growth Management Director Charles Wu indicated there was no report. APPROVAL OF MINUTES Mr. Tarr requested a legal opinion from the City Attorney on how important it was that the minutes be reasonably accurate, stating that some comments he had made during the discussion of the Christ Fellowship presentation had been omitted or were incomplete; or if the minutes were to be a generality of what went on. City Attorney Rubin responded that the minutes should be accurate and the substantative points raised should be reflected; however, they were meant as a summary and not to be verbatim. Mr. Tarr requested that the minutes be changed to include on page six his question to the City Attorney regarding whether there was legal authority or a legal obligation for the Commission to grant any of the requested deletions, and further to add the specific items which he had mentioned that he had a problem defining. On page nine, Mr. Tarr indicated where the minutes mentioned he wanted something clarified and referred to a member versus non member, he believed it had been more than that -- affiliate versus non affiliate. The, last item Mr. Tarr requested be changed was a typographical error on page nine which needed correction from "more" to "move ". Mr. Tarr indicated he would not want to approve the minutes as submitted, that the other members might want to check to see if all of the points they had made were listed, and inquired as to the procedure to go back to the audio to rewrite the minutes. Growth Management Director Wu commented that the Recording Secretary could look at the areas mentioned by Mr. Tarr and make those corrections and then these minutes could be revisited at the next meeting. Consensus was indicated by the Commission. ROLL CALL Betty Laur, Secretary for the meeting, called the roll. Present Dennis Solomon, Chairman Craig Kunkle, Jr., Vice Chairman Joel Channing Absent Chairman Pro Tern Barry Present Alternate Ernest Volonte • Planning & Zoning Commission Minutes November 27, 2001 John Glidden Dick Ansay Steven Tarr Alternate David Kendall Also present were Growth Management Director Charles Wu, Principal Planner Steve Cramer, Senior Planner Edward Tombari, Planner Kara Irwin, and City Attorney Len Rubin. Public Hearing and Recommendation to City Council Petition PUD- 01 -07: Batt School A request by Mark Bradford of Cotleur- Hearing, agent for Robert A. Wilcox, for a rezoning from Planned Development Area (PDA) to an underlying zoning of Public /Institutional (P 11) with a Planned Unit Development (PUD) overlay for a 9.42 -acre site. The applicant is proposing to construct a 50.203 square foot private school with gymnasium, football field, and track. The subject site is generally located on the north side of Hood Road, west of the Interstate 95 overpass and east of the Ronald Reagan Turnpike overpass. (35-4]S-42E) . Growth Management Director indicated this was a followup to the September 25 workshop and that the applicant had made the changes suggested by the Commission. Planner Kara Irwin presented the staff report and answered questions from the Commission. Mark Bradford of Cotleur- Hearing, agent for the applicant, introduced the project team. Mr. Bradford reviewed the project and reported that the applicant had accomplished each of the four suggestions made at the workshop: (1) to provide a vehicular roundabout so that people traveling north on the west access aisle did not have to travel all the way to the rear of the site into the service court to turn around; (2) to provide a vehicular connection from the front parking area on the west side to the west side north -south access aisle; (3) to provide additional architecture on the east and west elevations; and (4) to provide a traffic management study. Chair Solomon declared the public hearing open. Hearing no comments from the public, Chair Solomon declared the public hearing closed. Mr. Glidden questioned whether 50' radius on the turnaround was adequate and suggested removing a parking space or two to make it larger. Mr. Glidden asked what had been done regarding the suggestion to place a fence around the lake, to which Mr. Bradford responded he believed the Commission's preference was not to have a fence but to address the concern; the applicant's response had been to provide a hedge along the north side of the lake where children would be dropped off, and there was no fence along the front of the property. Mr. Glidden indicated his preference had been not to have a fence . around the lake. Mr. Tarr requested a depiction of the view from the road, and indicated it appeared there was a lack of canopy trees. Mr. Bradford explained that they could not place canopy trees within 2 • Planning & Zoning Commission Minutes November 27, 2001 the maintenance easements around the lakes, which included the entrance to the project. Mr. Bradford explained that at the entrance they had placed some low trees and a lot of color variations in the ground plantings to make a nice entrance. Mr. Tarr commented he would like staff's position on placing some kind of fence or barrier around a lake on a school site, or along the road. Planner Irwin explained that the only barrier staff had been concerned about was at the corners of the dry detention area and as far as fencing around the dry detention area they had not had a concern. Mr. Tarr commented that the area was shown on the plans as a lake. Mr. Bradford explained that the original plan had indicated a dry detention area but it was actually a lake, and there was a 6" high curb adjacent to the side which would help prevent anyone from driving into the lake. Mr. Tarr stated he would like staff's position on having two lakes on a school site. Planner Irwin asked if his concern was safety, to which Mr. Tarr responded yes. Planner Irwin explained that had not come up during staff review, that safety had been discussed regarding vehicles, that this was a private school and students would be dropped off and picked up, and the lakes were not deep. Chair Solomon requested striping be shown on the next plan revision for the turnaround. Chair Solomon asked if there was a deceleration lane for traffic westbound on Hood Road turning into the site, to which Mr. Bradford responded one would be installed, that the right -of -way would have to be dedicated so there would be some adjustment to the site, and it was verified that was one of the conditions of approval. Mr. Bradford verified that one of the dead end parking areas near the entry circle on the west side had been eliminated, and that downspouts were architecturally treated. Mr. • Glidden commented he had just received an e-mail from his office that indicated a 50' turnaround was fine, but if the applicant could push it out a little without losing any parking spaces that would be fine. Mr. Ansay made a motion to recommend to City Council approval of Petition PUD -01 -07 with the following conditions and waivers as recommended by staff: Conditions of Approval 1. An exclusive right turn lane with minimum storage of 295 feet plus a fifty foot (50') taper shall be provided along Hood Road at the eastern project driveway. This right turn lane shall extend to the western project driveway. 2. Metal halide lighting in required. 3. Prior to review by City Council, a traffic management plan that reduces the waiting time required for pick -up and drop -off shall be submitted for review by the Planning & Zoning Division. 4. All classroom doors shall have windows 3" x 18" glass portals with wire mesh as reinforcement. 5. There shall be no nighttime outdoor athletic activities on the site. 6. The total capacity for this site at completion shall be limited to a maximum of 225 Elementary - Middle School students and the 105 High School students. The total number of students shall not exceed 330 as indicated in the traffic impact analysis. An annual • report indicating the number of students shall be submitted to the City on or before December 31" of each year, until the buildout date occurs. Any increase of enrollment 3 Planning & Zoning Commission Minutes November 27, 2001 beyond the specified numbers contained herein shall require additional concurrency review by the City and Palm Beach County. 7. Prior to issuance of the certification of completion for the athletic fields or certificate of occupancy, whichever comes first, the applicant, successors or assigns shall install and maintain in perpetuity, the Parkway System, including landscaping, irrigation, and related amenities. 8. Prior to the issuance of Certificate of Occupancy, all exotic vegetation shall be removed from the site. 9. Prior to review by City Council, the City shall review and approve site details for littoral zones, including their location, slopes and vegetation. As a requirement, at least 50% of the shoreline shall be planted with wetland trees and /or aquatic plants at ten square feet of littoral zone for every one linear foot of shoreline. There shall be a minimum of one tree for every 80 square feet and plants shall be on three -foot centers, minimum. A sum total of area(s) constituting no less than 15% nor more than 25% of the total shoreline distance shall be constructed as littoral shelf at the ratio of 10 square feet of shelf per running foot of shoreline. 10. The buildout date of this project is December 31, 2003 as referenced in their August 13, • 2001 Concurrency Traffic Impact Analysis. For the purposes of this condition, the project shall be considered built out if the student enrollment has reached the level as indicated in the traffic impact analysis. Waivers 1. Section 78- 319(a) — Minimum Landscape Buffer, to allow for a minimum 5 -foot rear landscape buffer. The Land Development Regulations require a minimum of 8 feet. 2. Section 116(a)(3)(a), Minimum Dimension and Total Area of Preservation Areas, to allow for a minimum 78 -foot width The Land Development Regulations require a minimum of 100 feet in width. 3. Section 78- 154(8)(7) — Minimum Development Area, to allow a maximum development area of 9.42 acres. The Land Development Regulations require a minimum of 50 acres. 4. Section 78- 344(1), Parking Stall and Bay Dimensions, to allow for 9' x 18.5' standard parking stalls. The Land Development Regulations require 10' x 18.5' parking stall dimensions. Mr. Charming seconded the motion, which carried by unanimous 7 -0 vote. Public Hearing and Recommendation to City Council Petition PUD -01 -01 —Alta Pines (Parcel 4.07b) A request by Codeur & Hearing, agent for Wood Partners, for a planned unit development approval to construct 264 multifamily dwelling units. The 24.68 -acre site is generally located 1/z mile north of the intersection of Military Trail and Hood Road, on the west side of Military Trail. (36 -41 S -42E) 11 Planning & Zoning Commission Minutes November 27, 2001 Growth Management Director Charles Wu introduced the project and explained that although the Commission had not previously seen this petition, it was on the agenda for public hearing and recommendation to City Council to try to accommodate the applicant's schedule. Planner Kara Irwin presented the project. Donaldson Hearing, agent for the petitioner, introduced their project team. Mr. Hearing described the experience of the developer, Wood Partners; pointed out the location of the project, provided project information, and indicated they had gone beyond the requirement of preservation, project features of preserves, gated entrance, and two amenities buildings. Mr. Hearing presented the master plan and described the proposed architecture. Chair Solomon declared the public hearing open. Hearing no comments from the public, Chair Solomon declared the public hearing closed. Mr. Glidden commented he had met with the client some time ago and made instructive comments, and his concerns had been satisfied. Mr. Kunkle stressed the need for a long -term management plan for the upland preserve areas and indicated he would like a condition of approval that would require a plan acceptable to City Forester Mark Hendrickson. Mr. Hearing advised that had been submitted and approved by the City's consultant and by the City Forester, and would welcome a condition of approval. Mr. Kunkle expressed some concern to keep supplemental irrigation out of wetland areas, and asked if sidewalks that connected internal to external areas were gated, to which Mr. Hearing responded they were not gated. Mr. Charming commented this was a very good site plan. Chair Solomon inquired about the number of external detached garages, which Mr. Hearing pointed out. Chair Solomon inquired as to the anticipated rental range, which Mr. Hearing explained was high $800's to $1400, at approximately $1 per square foot. The color schemes were described, and the actual material samples were reviewed. Mr. Hearing advised that photometric plans had been submitted and met the City's standards, and indicated that there would be lighting fixtures on the attached garages. Chair Solomon requested addition of a minor architectural detail such as possibly a keystone in the center of the garages that were a part of the buildings. Mr. Charming verified with Mr. Hearing that the mullion window details would be as shown. Mr. Hearing indicated that the light fixtures and the shed roofs would also help the architecture on the garages. Other items discussed were that construction would be done in one phase with the linkage road at the beginning, that substantial amounts of preserve areas were located along the perimeter roadways which took the place of berms, and the only berm would be building the sidewalk to the elevation required by South Florida Water Management District Unit 2 criteria. Mr. Charming was satisfied with using preserve areas in place of berms. The obligation of planting and maintaining the median on Central Boulevard had been assumed by Benjamin School and San Michele; and on Military would be coordinated by WCI with all the developers to utilize the design used by The Isles. Mechanical equipment would be screened. Mr. Ansay commented he liked the project. Mr. Tarr • indicated he was happy with the green space and questioned whether in the upland areas along Central Boulevard and Military Trail there were any trees. Mr. Hearing responded those areas were heavily 5 Planning & Zoning Commission Minutes November 27, 2001 vegetated with pines and palmettos, and confirmed that the view from Military Trail would be woods. Mr. Tarr questioned the method of garbage disposal, to which Mr. Hearing responded there would be one trash compactor for the project, described its location, and the locations to pull off cars to drop trash. Mr. Tarr indicated he supported this project. Mr. Charming made a motion to recommend to City Council approval of Petition PUD -01 -01 with the following conditions and waivers: Conditions of Approval 1. No building permits except for the clearing of exotic vegetation shall be issued until a revised Surface Water Management System for Unit 2 has received final approval from the City of Palm Beach Gardens and all other applicable governments and /or agencies, including a schedule for implementing the plan and a definitive commitment for funding the required improvements. 2. Prior to scheduling for City Council, the applicant shall: a) Submit a revised Photometric Plan that meets the requirements of LDR Section 95. Specifically, the applicant shall modify the plans to show no less than 1.0 foot - candles in the vehicle use areas (i.e. drive aisles). b) Locate all proposed easements (utility and drainage) as well as the existing easements, on the plans. No vertical construction or plantings shall be permitted within the drainage easements. The applicant shall indicate the proposed locations of those easements on the plans. c) Provide additional information regarding the interface of the proposed parking with the preserves. The preserves are to be at natural grade. The parking lots need to be filled to the 5 -year, 1 -day storm. Therefore, it appears that there will be a change in grade at this interface. The applicant shall indicate the change in elevation, slope, preserve drainage (if needed) etc., at these locations. d) Show access to the lake maintenance tracts from the public road right -of -way. The applicant needs to show the access to the lake maintenance tract on the plat. 3. Prior to issuance of the first building permit, the applicant shall: a) Provide a letter of authorization from the appropriate utility owners allowing the applicant to pave, landscape and place stormwater management features within their respective utility easements. 4. The applicant shall indicate pedestrian access easements for the proposed sidewalks along Central Boulevard and Military Trail. This easement needs to be shown on the plat for the project. The plat shall be submitted, reviewed, approved and recorded in the public records of Palm Beach County prior to the issuance of the first building permit for this project. 5. The applicant shall provide all of the necessary instruments, information and legal . documentation to satisfy the Legal Positive Outfall requirement within the City of Palm Beach Gardens within 45 days of the effective date of the Development Order for parcel Planning & Zoning Commission Minutes November 27, 2001 Waivers 1. Section 116(a)(3)(a), Minimum Dimension and Total Area of Preservation Areas, to allow . for a minimum 52 -foot width. The Land Development Regulations require a minimum of 100 feet in width. 7 4.07b. 6. The plats for parcels 4.07b and the dedications for the drainage easements and roadway easements shall be submitted and approved by the City, and placed in the official record books of Palm Beach County prior to the issuance of the first building permit. The plats shall show the recorded right -of -way and drainage easements and will need to be replatted once the final drainage easement on Parcel 4.07a is confirmed. 7. Prior to the issuance of the final Certificate of Occupancy, the applicant shall remove all exotics from the upland preserve area. 8. No more than 1,423 new external daily trips (203 residential units) may be permitted until contract has been let for the four (4) laning of Hood Road from Military Trail to Alternate AlA. 9. No more than 1,806 new external daily trips (258 residential units) may be permitted until contract has been let for six (6) laning of Alternate AIA from Hood Road to PGA Boulevard. 10. No more than 1,806 new external daily trips (258 residential units) may be permitted until contract has been let for the I -95 / Alternate AlA Flyover and interchange. 11. No more than 1,806 new external daily trips (258 residential units) may be permitted until contract has been let for reconfiguration of the Victoria Gardens Drive / PGA Boulevard intersection to provide three (3) northbound left -turn lanes and one (1) northbound right - turn lane. Should FDOT not approve this change in lane configuration, then one (1) additional left turn lane should be provided at this location. 12. An exclusive northbound left -turn lane is required along Military trail at the intersection with the City Road. 13. Right -turn and left -turn ingress are required along the City Road at the project access driveway. 14. Prior to issuance of the first building permit and before issuance of the final certificate of occupancy, the applicant shall conduct PM peak hour turning movement counts annually during the peak season at the intersection of Hood Road and Military Trail. At such time as the southbound left turn volume exceeds 300 vehicles per hour, an additional left -turn lane (dual left -turn lanes) should be provided at this location by the applicant, successor, or assigns prior to issuance of the final certificate of occupancy. 15. The applicant shall conduct a traffic signal warrant study during peak season for the signalization of the intersection of the proposed east -west roadway and Military Trail prior to the issuance of the last certificate of occupancy. Should the warrant indicate a need for a signal, the applicant, successor, or assigns shall be required to provide the full cost of the signal, or as otherwise determined by the City Engineer. Waivers 1. Section 116(a)(3)(a), Minimum Dimension and Total Area of Preservation Areas, to allow . for a minimum 52 -foot width. The Land Development Regulations require a minimum of 100 feet in width. 7 • Planning & Zoning Commission Minutes November 27, 2001 2. Section 78- 289(2), Residential Identification Sign, to allow for a fourteen (14) square foot building identification sign. The Land Development Regulations allow a maximum of four square feet in area. 3. Section 78 -285, Permitted Signs for Residential Development, to allow an entry sign with two sign faces. The Land Development Regulations allow a maximum of one (1) sign face per development. Mr. Ansay seconded the motion. Chair Solomon passed the gavel to Mr. Kunkle and requested amendment of the motion to include the following conditions: 16. A long -term management plan for upland and wetland preserve areas shall be provided which is acceptable to the City Forester. 17. Coach lamp fixtures shall be provided on the garages that are attached to residential buildings. Mr. Channing accepted the amendment to the motion; Mr. Ansay seconded the amended motion. Motion carried by unanimous 7 -0 vote. Public Hearing and Recommendation to City Council Petition PUD -00 -04 — Union Square Phase I Renovations (aka Tanglewood Apartments Planned Unit Development) A request by Al Malefatto, Esq., on behalf of CSC Tanglewood, Ltd., for a phased PUD Amendment to allow for the renovation of 542 apartment units, additional landscaping, and entry reconfiguration as part of phase I of the PUD amendment. The applicant shall be required to request additional amendments to the PUD as part of phase 2 renovations. Tanglewood Apartments are generally located on the east side of Military Trail, south of the southeast corner of PGA Boulevard and Military Trail (12- 42S -42E) Mr. Glidden stepped down due to conflict of interest, leaving six members seated on the Board. Growth Management Director reported staff had tried to work with the applicant to resolve issues. Senior Planner Edward Tombari reviewed the staff report, and advised that the applicant wanted to do the project in two phases; however, staff felt there was too much risk to the City not to address important issues up front, that the $500,000 surety bond to complete the project proposed by the applicant would not be sufficient, and that staff was therefore recommending denial of this petition. Chair Solomon questioned how many tower units had been added; Mr. Tombari responded there would be two additional tower units. Mr. Channing questioned the rationale for doing the project in phases, leaving a lot of problems for later. Mr. Tombari indicated that initially the applicant wanted to start repairs immediately and had come to staff to see if they could do this by building permit, but were advised by staff that any changes to the exterior elevations would require site plan review by the Planning & Zoning Commission, and in this case because it was a PUD would require a PUD amendment. Mr. Channing . Planning & Zoning Commission Minutes November 27, 2001 responded the applicant had had a year to figure it out. Mr. Kunkle commented trees intended to be preserved were counted as credits in the landscaping requirements and recommended a formula so that vegetation that did not survive would be replaced with like or equal kind. Mr. Tombari indicated that could be addressed by a condition of approval. Chair Solomon commented if the Commission wanted to move this petition forward, there were no conditions of approval. Mr. Tombari explained staff had not worked on conditions of approval, but they could be added tonight based on the Commission's decision. Mr. Tombari indicated there were no conditions because of the recommendation for denial. Chair Solomon expressed his opinion that even if denial was recommended by staff that proposed conditions of approval were needed, and that this issue could be discussed under New Business. Mr. Tombari explained the timing for the proposed phasing. Mr. Wu explained there was a problem imposing a deadline for a project the City could not bond. Chair Solomon verified with Mr. Tombari that staff had discussed with the agent their position that a $500,000 surety bond was not sufficient. Mr. Ansay commented that waiver 5 indicated there were numerous reasons to grant the waiver, and questioned those reasons. Mr. Tombari responded this would create a legal non - conformity because a wall could not be constructed as required because of physical constraints. Mr. Ansay questioned why the project should be done in phases. Chair Solomon requested Mr. Tombari give thought to possible conditions during the applicant's presentation, in case they were needed. Al Malefatto, Esquire, agent for the petitioner, introduced those present on behalf of the petitioner, Mr. Frank Marooney Landscape Architect, and William Caldwell of Oliver Glidden Partners. Mr. Malefatto indicated the petitioner felt by phasing, renovations could be started as quickly as possible to change the appearance to look like the attractive architectural drawings prepared by OG &P. Mr. Malefatto explained that in phase one the buildings would be completely renovated inside and outside, re -do landscaping to be completely consistent with code, and to install a right -turn lane. Mr. Malefatto explained that one of the conditions of approval to which the applicant was prepared to commit was that within 120 days of City Council approval, or 50% of building permits (271 units) whichever came first, submittals would be made for phase two items: signage, lighting, drainage to the extent it was necessary since based on the engineering statement the applicant felt drainage was not an issue, and parking. When repairs were begun, the owner would start increasing revenue, and the $500,000 bond would be posted to guarantee that phase two items would come in on time, and the applicant was willing to commit to a build -out date. Mr. Malefatto indicated he believed both phases could be completed within 18 months. Mr. Malefatto indicated landscaping along Military Trail had been upgraded since the workshop meeting. Mr. Malefatto explained that since tile roofs would cost $850,000 more than asphalt, the applicant would be using asphalt but was presenting some very attractive asphalt tile samples, and noted that in Palm Beach adjacent to The Breakers, asphalt roofing was being used that was very attractive. Mr. Malefatto indicated that the petitioners real motivation was to move on with the project as quickly as possible, and he did not understand staff's concern with the phasing and the alternative was that the project would look like it did currently, the owner would maintain it to current code, and applicant was making roof repairs now. • Chair Solomon declared the public hearing open. Hearing no comments from the public, Chair Solomon D • Planning & Zoning Commission Minutes November 27, 2001 declared the public hearing closed. Mr. Ansay noted it was very difficult to overrule staff when they recommended denial, and he did not understand why the petitioner could not provide all of the data so everything could be finalized and approved at one time, even if only part of it would be done at one time. Mr. Malefatto indicated the phase two items would probably take another 6 to 8 months, that it had been six months to get to this point, and the applicant wanted to get started to change the appearance of the project. Mr. Tarr verified with Mr. Malefatto that the access from The Admiralty would remain. Mr. Tarr stated in his opinion this was the biggest eyesore in the City and something should have been done three years ago. Mr. Tarr commented almost anything would be better than what was being done now, because roofs could be repaired but the fact was that the project would continue to deteriorate. Mr. Malefatto commented he did not believe the hands of the Commission were tied, since they could make a recommendation to the City Council to approve the petition with conditions and conditions of approval could be worked out with staff. Mr. Malefatto commented that looking at the staff report from the workshop he believed most of the waivers were recommended for approval at that time, but due to the fact the applicant wanted to stay with two phases he believed staff had said it could not be done. Mr. Tarr asked the worst case scenario if the project was phased as the applicant requested, to which Mr. Tombari responded that if something happened after only two or three buildings were renovated, then there would be two or three ibuildings that looked different, the parking areas would still need to be renovated, and the trash bins and everything else would be like they were now, which would create even more of an eyesore. Mr. Tarr asked if the developer and the lender wouldn't have enough interest in the project not to abandon the project after completion of only 2 -3 buildings, which he saw could happen from a planning standpoint but not from an investment standpoint, and if it did then the property would be foreclosed and another developer would come in. Mr. Tarr asked how much effort had been made on both sides since the workshop to resolve these issues. Mr. Malefatto indicated there was a meeting with staff but the owner was adamant on the two phase approach, that they believed that with approval of the project they would be able to get construction financing and it only made sense to complete the project after financing was in place, and also the lender would require completion. Mr. Malefatto explained that the petitioner's motivation was to move quickly to start enhancing the property. Mr. Wu reported an alternative had been offered to the applicant which was to approve the entire project but to do the construction in phases, and with the majority of financing put into construction, tangible results could be seen based on the phased completed project as it progressed; however, staff felt it would be a disservice to the City to review this project piecemeal, because part or all of a building might have to be lost, and it would tie the City's hands if the buildings were renovated before all of the site concerns were considered. Mr. Wu commented that even though staff had given positive feedback to the applicant at the conclusion of the workshop, they had added a caveat that they would like answers to the phase two questions. City Attorney Rubin noted there were certain criteria for waivers and staff's position was that without information on the whole project it was not known if there was sufficient justification for the waivers. The City Attorney advised the Commission could move forward if they desired and could come up with ftheir own conditions or identify areas for staff to work on, and that staff's position of denial did not bar them from approval. Mr. Tarr indicated he would be more comfortable with staff writing the conditions. 10 • Planning & Zoning Commission Minutes November 27, 2001 Mr. Tarr asked if staff was against two phases if the applicant submitted a plan for phase one and a plan for phase two, or if the project was so piecemeal it was really ten phases. Mr. Wu responded that staff did not know what phase two would include, and therefore did not know if a $500,000 surety bond would be sufficient. Mr. Wu indicated that for staff to be comfortable the whole project would need to be presented and approved but the renovation could be piecemeal. Mr. Tarr asked if a larger bond would work for staff, and suggested possibly the applicant and staff working out a percentage such as 85% of the plan, but he supported staff at this point because he did not feel qualified to come up with conditions and relied on staff to do that. Mr. Malefatto indicated the applicant had worked out some conditions of approval and he felt the applicant could work with staff on the conditions, but he felt the key difference was the fact that the applicant was not prepared to make a phase two submittal today. Mr. Malefatto explained the applicant had looked at privatization of the road, which would take a lot of engineering and the applicant was not even sure it was feasible, which would be a major phase two item and would take months. Mr. Tarr commented it appeared that not enough communication or effort had been put forth on the part of the applicant over recent months to sit down and iron out the issues one by one, but it seemed it had been the applicant's intent to push forward to City Council, and he would have a hard time approving that. Mr. Channing asked how long the present owner had owned this property, to which Mr. Malefatto responded approximately ten years. Mr. Channing commented the property had been cited for deficiencies for several years, and there were written requirements for all projects and their phase two items were required of all other projects up front, and there had been plenty of time for the applicant to conform to the submittal process. Mr. Channing indicated he had a problem putting up a bond for unspecified and undesigned things, which could create a legal situation because if the project was not completed then what was the City to do with the bond, and he did not want to see the City in a lawsuit over things that were not clear. Mr. Channing commented the petitioner had decided an asphalt roof was acceptable, but if the City allowed it in this project it should be allowed for every other rental project in the City, which he was not inclined to do. Mr. Channing commented the petitioner had indicated they had changed the parking along Military Trail to provide additional landscaping but he did not see it on the plans. Frank Marooney, Landscape Architect, responded that the applicant had submitted the changes and showed the new plan. Mr. Channing commented he believed that was the least of the problems and he concurred with staff. Mr. Malefatto commented regarding why the petitioner believed they should have two phases that this was not a new project; and regarding the roof tiles -- asphalt tiles were permitted under City code, and the landscaping had been addressed. Mr. Kunkle commented he supported staff, and commented that he was familiar with the Palm Beach project using asphalt shingles and he had no problem with asphalt roofing. Chair Solomon commented that staff made a recommendation of denial to the Commission, but the Commission was to use independent judgment whether to accept the recommendation or do something different, and whether to impose conditions. Chair Solomon commented he believed the applicant did not fully comprehend that they were not being treated differently than anyone else. Chair Solomon commented phasing did not bother him. Chair Solomon questioned if a commitment had been received from a lender to which Mr. Malefatto responded he did not believe so and he was not involved in those negotiations. Mr. Tombari indicated other rental projects approved with asphalt roofs had been older developments such as Gardens of Woodbury, and all recent rental projects within the past ten years had used tile, but asphalt was a 11 Planning & Zoning Commission Minutes November 27, 2001 permitted material. The City Attorney verified that asphalt was a permitted material, but explained that all of these rental projects had requested certain waivers and the City, during the PUD process, had obtained tile roofs in return; and if the whole project was not known it was tough to determine the waivers. Chair Solomon indicated it would be desirable to get the work started since it was so unsightly, that he could live with two phases, that a condition of approval could request another type of roof material, and that City Council could change the Commission's conditions. Mr. Malefatto indicated the applicant would welcome conditions including one for roof material, which could be revisited at City Council level. Mr. Malefatto clarified that the purpose of the bond proposed would be to guarantee performance that all required items for phase two would be submitted within a time certain and that completion of the project would be in 18 months, but he had no authority this evening to accept a bond amount higher than $500,000. Chair Solomon asked if the applicant could return in two weeks with clarified conditions. Chair Solomon indicated it was very difficult with the recommendation for denial; Mr. Malefatto indicated he could not recall a recommendation of denial in a very long time, and was willing to work with staff. Mr. Wu explained that even with a recommendation for denial staff would put together an ordinance with specific conditions for City Council action. Mr. Charming commented the bond the applicant was proposing was to assure the rest of the submittals would be submitted and not to bond the performance. Mr. Charming explained that normally when everything was designed and • approved then the engineers /architects gave their estimates based on the cost to complete that work; and this was only assurance to submit plans for the rest of the project. Mr. Channing commented he did not have a problem with phasing but the applicant should complete the design for each phase and not leave the City at risk. Mr. Ansay commented he understood the City code required submittals to be complete. Mr. Tombari responded that initially this applicant had been given special consideration because of Code Enforcement procedures to allow them to submit a PUD application in pieces to move forward to Planning & Zoning Commission. Mr. Ansay stated he did not like the applicant using the leverage of how the project worked and as far as he was concerned it could stay that way until the applicant conformed. Mr. Tarr commented he did not agree with that and believed in this case there should be differentiation between an existing project and one starting from scratch. Mr. Tarr asked the City Attorney if what the applicant was asking would preclude the Commission from treating this as a renovation. City Attorney Rubin advised the applicant wanted to do exterior elevation changes, which in a PUD was a major modification and a major modification was treated just like a new PUD and procedurally it was like a new application. Mr. Tarr indicated that was procedure, but logically -- because people drove by this project every day —he encouraged staff to bend over backward as far as they could to work with the applicant. Mr. Tarr stated his position that if there were further meetings he thought special exceptions should be given to this project because of the location, visibility, age, size, and code violations, even if a little risk was involved. Mr. Tarr commented that it might not be possible financing -wise to do the project like the City would desire due to the project's age and condition. Chair Solomon questioned whether the applicant would be willing to work further with the City or if they wanted a motion tonight. Mr. Wu indicated the applicant had indicated they wished to proceed with the two phases, which staff had been unable to work around. Mr. Malefatto commented in light of Mr. Wu's response, the applicant would prefer a motion tonight, and as stated staff would still prepare an ordinance that the City Council could approve and there would be conditions at that point, and that 12 • Planning & Zoning Commission Minutes November 27, 2001 possibly the Commission could suggest tonight the types of conditions that ought to be included. Mr. Malefatto requested a recommendation of approval. Mr. Tarr commented the Commission could vote to deny but the application would proceed to City Council, and if that were the case he believed the Commission should discuss tonight issues such as the roof so the City Council would know the Commission's feelings on the issues; because the outstanding issue was on coordination of construction and not a building issue, and the waivers and wall, etc, had not been discussed. Mr. Channing responded that would be difficult because there was a host of issues the Commission did not even know about because the applicant had not submitted all the information the Commission should have to consider. Mr. Tarr stated he did not know how a submittal to City Council could work properly since the Commission had not discussed all the issues. Mr. Charming agreed but indicated it could only be in regard to the issues the Commission knew about —Mr. Tarr stated that was what needed to be done. Mr. Ansay made a motion to recommend to City Council denial of Petition PID -00 -04 per recommendation of staff and added that he believed there should be no reason given as to why the applicant should not follow the City's development code and submit all of the plans necessary for review before it was presented to the Planning and Zoning Commission. Mr. Channing seconded the motion. During discussion of the motion, Mr. Tarr commented if the Commission voted to approve the motion and it went to City Council next , the City Council would have to assume the Commission was okay with everything except the phasing, such as with the roof that Mr. Channing was against -- because it was not brought up as an issue, a wall between the project and commercial had not been brought up, and site plan issues had not been brought up. Chair Solomon asked if Mr. Tarr wished to propose an amendment to the motion. City Attorney Rubin commented that he believed the motion was based on staff recommendation that they could not evaluate the application because it was not a complete application. The City Attorney advised that theoretically if this went to City Council and the Council had no problem with the phasing, the City Council could send it back for Planning and Zoning to look at. Mr. Tarr commented they could also just move it along with a roof Mr. Channing did not want. Mr. Channing commented the idea of doing a project in phases did not bother him so much as the idea that the Commission was not seeing the whole project, and if they came in with a complete design so the cost would be known, the appropriate amount of bonding could be done so if something happened the City could just take the money and complete the project according to the plans. Mr. Channing commented the bond should not be just for completion of the plans, and if complete plans were offered then phasing could be addressed. Mr. Tarr asked what would happen if there were no motion, or if the Commission was obligated to make a motion, to which the City Attorney responded that if there were no vote or in the event of a tie vote, this application would move forward to City Council with no recommendation. Mr. Tarr suggested the Commission could send this to City Council with the idea that the Commission did not have enough information to approve or deny because what had been submitted was not acceptable to staff, and did not want to deny it because City Council could approve it with items the Commission would not have approved if they had had a complete package, so Mr. Tarr indicated he was in favor of saying the Commission could not make a decision, if that was legal. Chair Solomon called for a vote on the motion. Mr. Tarr did not vote; the City Attorney advised that Mr. Tarr must vote. The motion carried by unanimous 6 -0 vote. Mr. Solomon asked that the minutes show all of the discussion 13 Planning & Zoning Commission Minutes November 27, 2001 that had taken place. Recommendation to the City Council Petition MISC- 01 -17: Signage, lighting and building colors for Legacy Place A request by Henry Skokowski of Urban Design Studio, agent for ORIX/TMK Palm Beach Gardens Venture and PGA Gateway Ltd., for approval of the signage program, lighting plan, and building colors for the commercial portion (parcels A, B & C) of Legacy Place, generally at the southeast corner of PGA Boulevard and Alternate AIA . (6- 42S -43E) Mr. Glidden re- joined the Commission at this point. Senior Planner Steve Cramer presented the project request. Proposed signage was displayed, and Mr. Cramer answered questions from the Commission. Mr. Cramer clarified signage locations for Mr. Kunkle. Mr. Glidden indicated he had met with the applicant and noticed some architecture elements that differed from plans on the table, and asked if staff had reviewed the drawings for differences from the approved plans. Mr. Cramer indicated staff had not compared the plans but the applicant could be asked if any changes had been made. Mr. Cramer indicated the application was for the signs to meet code. Mr. Glidden indicated there needed to be a system to consider the material on which the sign was to mounted, so that signage would not be overstated. Mr. Cramer indicated the dotted boxes shown should be what code allowed and suggested this could be left for staff review. Mr. Glidden suggested toning down some colors. Mr. Kunkle questioned whether there was uniformity of fonts and colors irrespective of the stores, to which Mr. Cramer responded that a waiver was requested for different color signage, and the Board needed to rule on the font tonight. Mr. Ansay commented there was four -sided architecture and asked if signage considered that, to which Mr. Cramer responded that the applicant was asking for more wall signs. Marty Minor, Urban Design Studio, provided the petitioner's presentation. Mr. Minor advised that this was a response to a condition of approval to come back with lighting, signage, and building materials, and described the lighting plan. James Heller, Architect, addressed building colors. Banners were discussed and Mr. Channing suggested different criteria be included such as for during different seasons and not for advertising. Mr. Channing and Mr. Glidden commented they did not like the two green colors presented. Mr. Channing suggested toning down building colors and that the applicant look at the project in Juno Beach where intense colors had been used. Mr. Channing suggested at the appropriate time to paint samples on outside walls for review by staff and the Commission. Mr. Heller explained that was always done by this developer; Mr. Channing requested the Commission participate. Mr. Heller agreed to a sampling of colors to be reviewed by the Commission. Awning colors were described. Mr. Ansay suggested a coordinated signage program, uniform in appearance and layout. Chair Solomon also requested uniformity in color as well as lettering. The applicant requested the • Commission compare this to Gardens Mall interior signage which was not uniform, and indicated they wanted as much uniformity as possible but also to allow national companies to use signage reflecting l[l • Planning & Zoning Commission Minutes November 27, 2001 their corporate identity. Chair Solomon indicated he thought it was more important to have uniformity in an outdoor setting than indoors such as in Gardens Mall. Mr. Glidden requested recommending to City Council approval of the signage program with the caveat that signage be depicted with Photoshop and submitted to staff for review by this Board, and that signage be well -done. Mr. Heller indicated the applicant wanted to limit the signage to be within the dotted boxes and would agree to Mr. Glidden's recommendation. Mr. Heller indicated if a tenant had a logo used nationally that would be requested. Awning signage was discussed; Mr. Cramer indicated that awning signage was not allowed by code. Mr. Glidden encouraged the applicant to pick four colors for signage, to which the applicant agreed. Mr. Glidden requested when drawings were presented the sign be shown on the whole building and also any adjacent approved signage. Awning colors were pointed out on the elevations. Applicant verified there had been no changes to the plans as approved by City Council. Mr. Glidden expressed concern regarding who would have authority to change colors in the field. Mr. Heller suggested the applicant could mock -up panels upon which to place the colors and the applicant and representatives from the Commission could look at the colors together. Applicant verified that all signage was to be in individual letters. Mr. Glidden indicated he wanted stipulated that every change of color must be at an interior corner and that the applicant channel back any specific tenant sign approvals through staff to be placed on a P &Z agenda to give the Commission the opportunity to review for approval. Mr. Minor requested support for the size requested for the monument sign, and for tenant anchor signage. Mr. Minor expressed hope that in the future the City would consider tasteful awning signs. Mr. Minor indicated agreement with Mr. Glidden's comments. Mr. Minor requested the monument sign columns be included; that anchor tenant signage be allowed to be increased, and that anchor tenants be allowed signage on the entrance wall. The applicant noted additional light fixtures would be added in the interior pedestrian courtyard plaza as the project progressed. Chair Solomon requested the applicant come back with their requests stated as waivers and to show what signage would look like. Mr. Glidden commented that signage could be presented at any time so the Board could see what it would look like, if the signage package was approved with the caveat that the Commission reserved the right to see each individual tenant sign. Mr. Cramer indicated staff supported two new waivers: (1) four wall signs for Jacobsens; and (2) two signs for corner tenants. Mr. Glidden commented the only other thing was the awning colors. Chair Solomon commented there should be a condition regarding some kind of uniformity in colors and style. Mr. Glidden commented the applicant did not know all the tenants, and he was more confident in seeing each one, and fonts and colors would change. Mr. Cramer commented there were ten buildings and suggested each building could have its own sign program and the applicant could bring each building program back to P &Z as opposed to each sign coming back. Mr. Glidden commented the building tenants would not all be occupying the building at the same time. Mr. Tarr commented the logo presented had a center portion which appeared menacing to him, which he had verified with at least 12 other people, and that the center had a semi - swastika took Mr. Tarr indicated he had discussed this with staff, one of whom described the logo as menacing. Mr. Tarr indicated he had a problem with this logo being placed on banners and requested the logo be re -done. The applicant indicated they had revised the logo, and Mr. Tarr indicated the revised logo was acceptable, expressed . appreciation for the revision, and requested any motion incorporate the revised logo. Mr. Channing indicated he would like criteria for tenant signage, at least loose guidelines to keep within a range —with 15 Planning & Zoning Commission Minutes November 27, 2001 the knowledge that some tenants would have unique signage requests. Chair Solomon suggested the applicant be given direction on the monument sign. Mr. Cramer explained a waiver would be needed if the columns were included. Mr. Glidden commented that what was missing was: specificity as to awning color, it was not within the purview of the Commission to do the waiver for the awning sign, a waiver had been requested for more than allowable square footage which needed to be clarified, there was no specificity as to sign font or color, or method of illumination other than three or four methods, and suggested polling the Board to see who would need to have the applicant come back or who would like to move forward. Chair Solomon added the logo question, which Mr. Glidden commented could be brought back for approval. A poll indicated diverse opinions, and the applicant stated they would be happy to come back to a later meeting pulling things together in more finalized form, even with them going to City Council within a month if that was the Board's recommendation, and offered the following items for consideration. (1) The applicant would agree to only permit individual letters; (2) signage colors would be limited to four throughout the project; (3) lettering would either be self illuminated or internally back lit —never any flashing signs of any type. Chair Solomon requested the applicant stop at this point because there were so many items needed, including those the applicant was now enumerating, that this should be done more in a more uniform fashion. Mr. Channing suggested the applicant return. Mr. Minor asked if they could be on the December 11 agenda. Since the agenda was full on that date, it was suggested this item be added to the Special Meeting agenda on December 18. Discussion ensued. Mr. Glidden outlined what the applicant needed to have for the December 18 meeting: (1) Change the logo; (2) Specify 3 -4 awning colors and bring samples; (3) Specify 4 sign colors and provide color chips; (4) look at the two green colors and move one notch back on the intensity of the salmon color; (5) the two additional conditions; and (6) the waiver request on size of the monument sign. The monument sign base was described by the applicant for Mr. Channing, who showed the applicant his ideas regarding the sign. Mr. Ansay recommended an expert on color matching and color schemes might make a presentation to the Board. Applicant indicated they had originally presented many renderings in different colors but direction had been only that the Board did not like the light blue. Applicant proposed the field sampling as discussed earlier. Applicant was advised they could be on the December 18 agenda and staff would determine whether they would be first or second on the agenda, and they would need to submit changes next week. OLD BUSINESS There was no old business to come before the Commission. NEW BUSINESS Mr. Wu explained that the Christ Fellowship Church item scheduled for December 18 was for the southern campus only; and that the previous presentation had been for the northern campus. Items that would be considered for the southern campus would include shuttlebus and simulcasting. 16 • • Planning & Zoning Commission Minutes November 27, 2001 Chair Solomon discussed the question of whether staff should submit conditions of approval when their recommendation was denial. Chair Solomon indicated he thought staff should provide conditions unless the reason for recommending denial was because there had not been sufficient information. Mr. Wu indicated staff would provide conditions in the future. Chair Solomon commented he believed regarding the dotted lines depicting signage area that there should be an understanding that even though the sign ordinance permitted a larger sign, the applicant was agreeing to limit their sign size to the dotted lines depicted, which could be addressed as a condition of approval. Discussion ensued. Mr. Channing indicated the size of the sign against the background was the important part. Mr. Glidden suggested changes be made when the LDR's were revisited, and noted there were many things such as how fat the letters were that the code just could not address. Chair Solomon complimented staff on their work, and the recording secretary for a good job on the minutes. 17 • • • Planning & Zoning Commission Minutes November 27, 2001 ADJOURNMENT There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned at 9:35 p.m. The next regular meeting will be held December 11, 2001. n inn nv>~ n. ,rune uuen J Steven T Dick Ansay Alternate Ernest Volonte Alternate David Kendall Betty Laur, Se retary for the Meeting In Exec 19 01 03:42p Lisa 561 - 684 -6890 p.8 t� #_ FORM 80 MEMORANDUM OF VOTING CONFLICT FOR COUNTY, MUNICIPAL, AND OTHER LOCAL PUBLIC OFFICERS AME - FIRST NAME - MIDDLE NAME NAME OF BOARD, COUNCIL, COMMISSION, AUTHORITY OR COMMITTEE B. Jahn Planning and Zoning MAILING ADDRESS THE BOARD, COUNCIL, COMMISSION, AUTHORITY OR COMMITTEE ON WHICH I SERVE IS A 8 Huntley Circle UNIT OF: XX CITY COUNTY OTHER LOCAL AGENCY CITY COUNTY NAME OF POLITICAL SUBDIVISION: Palm Beach Gardens Palm Beach Gardens Palm Beach DATE ON WHICH VOTE OCCURRED November27, 2001 MY POSITION IS: ELECTIVE APPOINTIVE XX WHO MUST FILE FORM 8113 This form is for use by any person serving at the county, city or other local level of government on an appointed or elected board, council, commission, authority, or committee. It applies equally to members of advisory and non - advisory bodies who are presented with a voting conflict of interest under Section 112.3143, Florida Statutes. The requirements of this law are mandatory; although the use of this particular form is not required by law, you are encouraged to use it in making the disclosure required by law. Your responsibilities under the lawwhen faced with a measure in which you have a conflict will vary greatly depending on whether you hold an elective or appointive position. For this reason, please pay close attention to the instructions on this form before completing the reverse side and filing the form. • • se q91 -AA4 -6890 P.10 C im U1 u.77 TJr I - - DISCLOSURE OF LOCAL OFFICER'S INTEREST I, John Glidden, hereby disclose that on November 2, 2001: measure came or will come before my agency which (check one) MW inured to my special private gain; or XXX inured to the special gain of Ceebraid Signal Corporation by whom I am retained. (b) The measure before my agency and the nature of my interest in the measure is a follows: Union Square (Tanglewood) s Date Filed Si nature 'NOTICE: UNDER PROVISIONS OF FLORIDA STATUTES §112.317 (1985), A FAILURE TO MAKE ANY REQUIRED DISCLOSURE CONSTITUTES GROUNDS FOR AND MAY BE PUNISHED BY ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING: IMPEACHMENT, REMOVAL OR SUSPENSION FROM OFFICE OR EMPLOYMENT, DEMOTION, REDUCTION IN SALARY, REPRIMAND, OR A CIVIL PENALTY NOT TO EXCEED $5,000. L:1AD MIN%PE R SONALUGH NIP &z1TANGCON3 • Page 2