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PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
June 12, 2001
MINUTES
The Regular Meeting of the Planning and Zoning Commission of the City of Palm Beach Gardens,
Florida, was called to order by Vice Chair Craig Kunkle at 6:30 P.M. in the Council Chambers of the
Municipal Complex, 10500 North Military Trail, Palm Beach Gardens, Florida, and opened with the
Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag.
ANNOUNCEMENTS
Growth Management Director Charles Wu announced that the joint design guidelines workshop was
scheduled prior to the June 21 City Council meeting from 6 to 7 p.m.
CITY COUNCIL LIAISON
There were no items by the City Council Liaison.
GROWTH MANAGEMENT REPORT
Growth Management Director Charles Wu reported that the City Council had approved the Frenchman's
Reserve Pod "A ", and the Frenchman's Reserve entry and signage, at their June 7 meeting, both of
which had been approved by Planning and Zoning at their May 22 meeting. The City Council had also
approved the Marriott Hotel sign waiver at their June 7 meeting, which Planning and Zoning had
approved April 24. The final BallenIsles parcel, 21, which was approved by Planning and Zoning on
May 8, had also been approved by City Council on June 7. Mr. Wu announced that Chair Solomon, Mr.
Glidden, and Mr. Ansay would be absent tonight, and that agenda items 6 and 7 would not be heard
tonight, therefore the Land Development Regulations Committee would not be convened.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Mr. Present made a motion to approve the minutes of the May 8, 2001 meeting as submitted. Mr.
Volante seconded the motion, which carried by unanimous 6 -0 vote.
Mr. Present made a motion to approve the minutes of the May 22, 2001 meeting as submitted. Mr.
Charming seconded the motion, which carried by unanimous 6 -0 vote.
Vice Chair Kunkle indicated he liked the addition of the cover page for each petition; Mr. Wu reported
credit should be given to John Lindgren.
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ROLL CALL
Betty Laur, Secretary for the meeting, called the roll for the Local Planning Agency and the Planning
and Zoning Commission:
Present
Craig Kunkle, Jr., Vice Chairman
Barry Present, Chairman Pro Tern
Joel Channing
Steven Tarr
Alternate Ernest Volonte
Alternate David Kendall - arrived at 6:37 p.m
Absent
Dennis Solomon, Chairman
John Glidden
Dick Ansay
Also present were Growth Management Director Charles Wu, Senior Planners Ed Tombari and Talal
Benothman, City Attorney Len Rubin, Principal Planners Karen Carver and Steve Cramer, and Planners
John Lindgren and Kara Irwin.
LOCAL PLANNING AGENCY
Public Hearing /Recommendation to City Council
Petition L U- 01 -02: Parcel 12.04 Small Scale Land Use - Banyan Tree East
Kenneth A. Blair, agent for Catalfumo Construction & Development, Inc., is proposing a small -scale
land use map amendment to the City's Comprehensive Plan. The amendment would change the
future land -use designation of a 5.21 -acre parcel from Mixed Use to Commercial. The subject parcel,
known as Parcel 12.04, is located at the northeast corner of Northlake Boulevard and MacArthur
Boulevard.
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Public Hearing/Recommendation to City Council
Petition LU- 01 -01: Parcel 12.05 Small Scale Land Use - Banyan Tree West
Kenneth A. Blair, agent for Catalfumo Construction & Development, Inc., is proposing a small -scale
land use map amendment to the City's Comprehensive Plan. The amendment would change the
future land -use designation of a 7.23 -acre parcel from Mixed Use to Commercial. The subject parcel,
known as Parcel 12.05, is located at the northwest corner of Northlake Boulevard and MacArthur
Boulevard.
Planner John Lindgren reviewed the staff report for both petitions, and indicated that intensity would
be reduced for both parcels. Regarding parcel 12.04, Mr. Tarr indicated from the chart showing different
uses that if the building were 4 stories the base footprint would be 192,904 square feet, but the entire site
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was only 226,000 square feet and there would be no room left for parking. Mr. Lindgren responded that
the Comprehensive Plan did not account for parking. Mr. Tarr commented then this scenario could not
exist and comparing trips made no sense. Mr. Wu explained that a level of service analysis was required
by Florida Statutes and that subsequently if the land use change were approved then zoning items would
be considered such as whether it met parking, etc., which was different than this required academic
exercise. Mr. Tarr commented that a reduction in traffic being shown as a result of this land use change
was not the case and the Board and the public were being misled. City Attorney Rubin commented that
land use was a different function than zoning and at this time the functional capacity of the property
could not be considered, but focus must be only on maximum to maximum. The City Attorney noted
that the present PDA zoning was a hold mechanism until the applicable land use was set. Mr. Channing
asked if there was an objective way to determine the practical maximum use. The City Attorney advised
that going by the maximums to compare apples to apples was the best that could be done under the
City's code and the LDR's. Mr. Tarr requested where to find that information, to which Mr. Lindgren
responded it was in the Comprehensive Plan and he would provide a copy, but that the percentages of
a percentage could not exceed 100 %. City Attorney Rubin indicated the information could be found in
F.S. 163 under Land Use Planning and Mr. Tarr would be provided with a copy. Mr. Tarr questioned
how these three uses had been picked, to which Mr. Lindgren responded that the applicant picked the
most intense uses available to prove his case. Mr. Tarr commented a proper calculation would show
more traffic generated than the analysis showed, and he felt the Board was being mislead. City Attorney
• Rubin responded that land use was a compatibility issue and Mr. Tarr was mixing in zoning criteria.
Mr. Wu indicated this was a small scale amendment and following this public hearing a recommendation
would be made, City Council would approve on first reading and second reading, and transmittal to
Treasure Coast Regional Council and DCA would be made as a formality advising that a small scale
amendment had been made to both parcels. Vice Chair Kunkle asked if staff could review the
methodology. Mr. Channing commented he was not sure Mr. Tarr was right since these parcels would
probably be developed as commercial, but if done as mixed use it would be logical to place the other
uses upstairs, however, no one would build 4 stories that covered most of the site, so as a practical matter
the amount of parking would be figured so that the lot coverage would be much smaller. Mr. Channing
indicated that the two proper models were one that was 1 -story commercial and the other commercial
on one floor with office space and residential above, and he would not characterize it as misleading until
a practical analysis including counting parking had been done. Ken Blair, agent for the petitioner,
explained that this was an academic exercise and the applicant had worked with staff on the calculations.
Vice Chair Kunkle declared the public hearing open for Petition LU- 01 -02, Parcel 12.04, and LU- 01 -01,
Parcel 12.05. Dee Sabers, President of Sun Terrace at Lake Catherine Homeowners Association
indicated they had no objection to the change in use but were concerned with the safety and lifestyle of
their community since it appeared now that there would be a single use, and how it would impact their
community. Ms. Sabers questioned the end use and what the applicant would provide in the form of
a wall between their community, security lighting, vermin control if there was food service, the impact
on the banyan tree, how the look would be changed, and impact to the already heavy traffic. Ms. Sabers
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indicated that one of the greatest concerns was traffic, and asked the Board to consider their concerns
before giving the applicant carte blanche on this site, and to direct the applicant to work with them, and
that they be notified when anything on this project was to be discussed. City Attorney Rubin noted the
concerns were all valid but those were site plan concerns, and encouraged the representatives to come
to the site plan presentations. Vice Chair Kunkle confirmed with staff that the residents would be
notified. Mr. Wu commented staff would be glad to facilitate a meeting between the area residents and
the developer and advised the applicant to follow the banyan tree overlay and Northlake Boulevard
zoning in progress to protect the residents. Mr. Blair indicated the developer had previously met with
the residents and would continue to do so. Hearing no further comments from the public, Vice Chair
Kunkle declared the public hearing closed.
Mr. Tarr commented it appeared the applicant actually intended to build a small retail center and self -
storage facility on parcel 12.04 and asked why retail had been considered in the proposed land use. Mr.
Lindgren explained that if the use was not permitted it would have to be added during the PUD process
and approved by Planning and Zoning and the City Council. The City Attorney explained that land use
designation was a broad category with specific zoning categories within each land use designation, and
specific uses would be looked at within the PUD process and would be a part of the zoning petition.
Mr. Charming made a motion to recommend to City Council approval of Petition LU- 01 -02, Parcel
• 12.04. Mr. Present seconded the motion. During discussion of the motion, Mr. Tarr asked if you
added two pieces of the same designation of land to calculate trips generated from that property
if it mattered where the land was within the City. Mr. Lindgren responded location did not come
into play until looking for concurrency purposes to see if the roads in that area could
accommodate the traffic. The City Attorney advised that right now only maximum trips from the
various land use designations were being considered. Mr. Tarr gave an example of two different
projects and asked how one could generate so many more trips with the same use, to which Mr.
Lindgren responded there was peobably more internal capture because there were more uses in
that project. Mr. Tarr indicated there was only one use. Vice Chair Kunkle commented this
question had arisen earlier that day and asked Mr. Wu if that had been answered. Mr. Wu
responded staff did not have the answer but the City's traffic consultant had reviewed all the
reports and had approved them. Mr. Kunkle commented this did not interpolate well and the
consultant would have to be trusted. Mr. Tarr pointed out discrepancies between two projects in
the amount of traffic generated. Principal Planner Carver explained that ten separate buildings
would each generate a certain number of trips but if those ten were combined into one building
the amount generated would not be 10 x 10. Mr. Channing commented that the bigger the
building the less trips were generated and that they were not proportional. Motion carried 5 -1
with Mr. Tarr opposed. Mr. Tarr indicated he was not against the land use change but believed
the process to be flawed and wanted justification. Mr. Charming requested an answer to Mr.
Tarr's inquiry at the next meeting.
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Mr. Volante made a motion to recommend to City Council approval of Petition LU- 01 -01, Parcel
12.05. Mr. Channing seconded the motion. During discussion of the motion, Mr. Tarr indicated
his comments were the same as for Parcel 12.04. Motion carried 5 -1 with Mr. Tarr opposed for
the reasons previously stated.
City Attorney Rubin commented this was very confusing and reminded the members that staff was fully
available and they should call with questions before the meetings. It was noted that an upcoming
orientation session should help with the process discussed tonight.
Workshop
Petition LU- 01 -01: Gardens Station Small Scale FLUAmendment
Henry Skokowski, of Urban Design Studio and as agent for NorthCorp Development Inc., is
proposing a small -scale land use map amendment to the City's Comprehensive Plan. The amendment
would change the future land use designation of a 7.6 acre parcel from Mixed Use (MXD) to
Professional Office (PO). The subject parcel, known as Gardens Station, is located approximately
215 feet from the intersection of RCA Drive and NorthCorp Parkway, on the eastern side of RCA
Drive.
• Planner Kara Irwin reviewed the staff report. In response to Mr. Tarr's question of why 4 floors were
not used in these calculations as in the previous petition, Ms. Irwin explained she had chosen to be more
realistic. Mr. Tarr indicated that not being consistent was not fair to the Board and gave this petition a
better analysis. Mr. Channing commented staff should not be subjective. The City Attorney commented
the calculations should be consistent and use the same standard. Mr. Tarr commented Ms. Irwin's way
showed a more feasible project and he would research the statutes. Henry Skokowski, agent for the
petitioner, commented he and the owner had also struggled with the calculations, that they had been
done for a realistic development, that the petitioner had gone through the calculations a couple of times
with staff to get something the State would accept, and because of the property's secondary location the
best use was professional office. Mr. Skokowski advised that the amount of parking needed would
depend on the business activity of the user. Mr. Tarr indicated that doing the math, the building could
not be higher than two stories. Mr. Skokowski indicated there was no desire for more than two stories
in this case, but any project could request more stories under a PUD application, and approval was at
the discretion of the City Council. Mr. Skokowski commented the petitioner had to follow the
maximum use under the methodology. Mr. Tarr indicated the analysis was flawed when the
Commission was told there would be a reduction in traffic but in reality traffic could increase.
Recommendation to City Council
Petition MISC- 01 -14: FPL Utili , Facility Waiver
Marty Minor, of Urban Design Studio and as agent for Florida Power and Light, is requesting a
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waiver from Policy 1.1.5.1.(a).2 of the City's Future Land Use Element, which requires parcels of
land located west of the Urban Growth Boundary to be developed as a Planned Unit Development
(PUD) or Planned Community District (PCD) and must be at least 250 acres in size. Parcels existing
prior to February 1998 may petition the City Council to waive the size threshold requirement. The
subject parcel consists of approximately 9.3 acres located on the north side of PGA Boulevard,
abutting the east side of C -I8 Canal, immediately west of the Mirasol PCD and north of the PGA
National PCD.
Growth Management Director Charles Wu explained that the action required today was to consider
waiving the requirement in the Comprehensive Plan that any property considered for development which
was located west of the urban growth boundary line must be at least 250 acres in size; and noted that
this waiver was possible for parcels established before February 1998. Mr. Wu explained that today's
action was not to consider whether an FPL substation should be located on this parcel, that the issue of
whether FPL belonged on the site would be heard at a subsequent hearing, and that a waiver was
required before rezoning of the parcel could take place. Senior Planner Talal Benothman reviewed the
staff report and advised that the Commission only needed to consider whether this parcel was eligible
for a waiver. The City Attorney clarified that this was two part inquiry, and that there was sufficient
evidence to conclude this was a separate parcel as early as 1996, but the Commission also needed to
consider whether having an FPL substation on this site met the policy not to have urban sprawl. The
• City Attorney commented that the whole purpose of a substation was to serve already approved
development.
Mr. Charming made a motion to recommend approval to City Council of Petition MISC- 01 -14.
Mr. Volante seconded the motion which carried by unanimous 6 -0 vote.
PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
Vice Chair Kunkle noted that Mr. Kendall had arrived shortly the meeting convened.
Recommendation to City Council
Petition SP- 01 -12: Mirasol Parcel 8
Anne Booth, of Urban Design Studio and as agent for Taylor Woodrow Communities, Inc., is
requesting site plan approval for 35 custom single-family dwelling units in Parcel 8 of the Mirasol
Planned Community District, with a proposed density of 3.08 dwelling units per acre. The 16.5 acre
site is located on the western edge of Mirasol, approximately one mile northwest of the intersection
of Jog Road and PGA Boulevard.
Senior Planner Edward Tombari reviewed the staff report and indicated staff supported the requested
waivers, which were consistent with those granted for other pods in Mirasol. Mr. Tombari advised that
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this petition had not required a workshop since it was not complex. The City Attorney advised that if
the Board found a petition to be complex it could be delayed to the next meeting. Mr. Tarr noted there
had been no site plan attached to the staff report. Mr. Tombari commented that a site plan should have
been attached, produced a drawing, and explained that because this was a cul -de -sac of less than 80 lots
a 5' sidewalk was required on only one side of the road. Anne Booth, agent for the petitioner, indicated
that this pod contained custom single family home sites, described the lots and the location of the
proposed sidewalk, and noted the waivers were the same requested and approved for the previous
petitions.
Mr. Present made a motion to recommend to City Council approval of Petition SP- 01 -02, Mirasol
Parcel S. Mr. Volonte seconded the motion, which carried by unanimous 6 -0 vote.
Recommendation to City Council
Petition MISC- 00 -23: PGA National Office Center Sidewalk Waiver
Henry Skokowski, of Urban Design Studio and as agent forE. Llwyd Ecclestone, Jr., is requesting
approval of a waiver from Section 256 of the City's LDR's that requires sidewalks to be located on
both sides of roadways. The requested waiver is to delete portions of the approved sidewalk on
Avenue of Champions, adjacent to the PGA Office Center. The 10.1 -acre site is on the west side of
Avenue of Champions, approximately 114 mile south of PGA Boulevard.
Planner John Lindgren reviewed the staff report, and explained that staff opposed removal of the
sidewalk and recommended denial of the request. Comments faxed from Mr. John Glidden indicated
he would like the sidewalk to remain to retain connectivity with the headquarters building and PGA
Boulevard. Mr. Tarr indicated he was against placing a sidewalk where he believed it was not needed
Mr. Tarr noted a letter from the PGA Homeowners Association was referred to in the staff report as
indicating that pedestrian movement near the roundabout would be dangerous, but he only read the
contrary in that letter —that they did not want the sidewalk there and there was no reason for it. Also, Mr.
Tarr commented that the staff report indicated the Police Department opposed the sidewalk, while in
reality they had made one statement indicating they wanted it to be consistent with City requirements,
and the City Engineer had recommended denial with no clarification or reasoning. Mr. Tarr commented
that in Mr. Glidden's fax he read that Mr. Glidden wanted connectivity but did not read that he wanted
that particular sidewalk. Mr. Tarr indicated the inferences were that everyone wanted the sidewalk, but
when the comments were dissected no one had really provided a reason to have a sidewalk there other
than it being in the LDR's. Mr. Lindgren explained staff's recommendation was based on having
sidewalks on both sides all the way to PGA Boulevard so that pedestrians did not have to cross the street,
and that the new office building had triggered this requirement. Mr. Tarr indicated he was in favor of
the applicant's proposal. Hank Skokowski, agent for the petitioner, reviewed the history of the project
and indicated that many PGA National residents were not in favor of the sidewalk, which would not
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really serve any purpose and for which there was no demand; and there were currently no problems and
no safety issues. Mr. Skokowski indicated PGA National was concerned because the sidewalk would
be immediately next to the roadway. Existing sidewalks were clarified and Mr. Skokowski distributed
photographs. Mr. Phil Lidden, 51 Cayman Place, PGA National, commented he was a member of the
Board of Governors and President of the POA, and indicated that this situation had been reviewed
extensively by the Architectural Review Committee and the Board of Governors. Mr. Lidden noted that
in a 2 -week survey only four people had crossed the road, and there was no reason for installing a
sidewalk. Mr. Lidden explained that an irrigation force main and other irrigation lines and electrical
lines were in place at the location where the sidewalk was proposed, and stated that the Board of
Governors was against it. Siro DeGasperis. former President of the POA of PGA National, expressed
concern that there was a storm sewer catch basin in the path of the proposed sidewalk, and expressed
his opinion that this sidewalk would not be a benefit. Vice Chair Kunkle questioned Mr. Tarr regarding
whether he thought this would be a safe suggestion since he found traffic in the roundabout to be
aggressive and did not know if a pedestrian crossing should be encouraged there. Mr. Tarr agreed, but
indicated he would rather see a crossing inside in the development by the guard gate rather than along
PGA Boulevard, and there was already connectivity to PGA Boulevard. Mr. Lindgren noted the
crosswalk was to serve the people from the office building to cross over for lunch, etc., and staff had no
problem with the crosswalk but did not want the crosswalk in lieu of sidewalks. Mr. Skokowski
indicated he and Mr. Lindgren had walked the site and he had determined that the median area provided
• safe harbor when crossing the street. Mr. Wu summarized the issues on behalf of the Growth
Management Department, commented that the missing sidewalk was the missing piece of the puzzle and
that granting the request would set precedent. Mr. Tarr indicated he agreed other than that this was a
20 -year old project and the amount of people who had walked that area for the past 19 years was next
to nothing. Mr. Tarr expressed his opinion that the residents should have a strong say, and his belief that
this was an unnecessary project. Mr. Present commented he normally supported the staff position, but
in this case the proposed sidewalk was senseless and it appeared the alternative presented by Mr.
Skokowski made sense.
Mr. Present made a motion to recommend to City Council approval of Petition MISC- 00 -23. Mr.
Tarr seconded the motion Motion carried 4 -2 with Mr. Channing and Mr. Kendall opposed.
Workshop
Petition CU- 00 -03: Temple Beth David
Larry Winkler, agentforNorthern Palm Beach County Jewish Community Center, Inc., is requesting
Conditional Use Amendment (CU) approval for Temple Beth David. The 5.0 -acre site contains an
8,308 square foot facility. The applicant proposes to increase the square footage by 21.787 square
feet. The proposed building is 1,991 square feet smaller than what was previously approved by the
City Council in July 1997. The site is located on the north side of Hood Road, halfway between
Military trail and Central Boulevard. (36-4]S-42E)
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Planner Kara Irwin presented the staff report. Outstanding issues were the landscape and maintenance
of 120' of median on Hood Road, revision of the number of parking spaces, and revision of the site plan,
drainage plan, and landscape plan per staff comments. Architect Larry Winkler, agent for the applicant,
addressed the cross parking agreement with the adjacent church. Vice Chair Kunkle noted this site
would stand alone on its parking requirements and that overflow had precipitated the agreement. The
lanes in the shared access were discussed. Mr. Winkler indicated there were two lanes in and a bypass
lane, and the eastern driveway was only one way. Mr. Winkler explained that the median had been
completed. Mr. Winkler produced a photo of the model of the project. Mr. Channing complimented
Mr. Winkler on the elevations, and requested additional landscaping near the building masses. Mr.
Winkler agreed to develop more landscaping and to address the remaining issues by the next meeting.
In response to Mr. Tarr's question regarding building trim, Mr. Channing indicated this was a different
style /concept and a sculptural design. Mr. Winkler noted he would bring the model to the next meeting.
Recommendation to City Council
Petition SP- 01 -08: Frenchman's Reserve Pod "D"
Jennifer Morton, of Land Design South and as agent for Toll Brothers Communities, Inc., is
requesting site plan approval for 77 semi - custom zero lot line dwelling units in Pod "D" of the
Frenchman's Reserve Planned Community District, with a proposed density of 2.94 units per acre.
• The 26.21 -acre is bounded by the Hood Road extension to the north, Frenchman's Reserve clubhouse
to the south, and golf course to the east and west. (41- 34S -42E)
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Recommendation to City Council
Petition SP- 01 -06: Frenchman's Reserve Pod "F"
Jennifer Morton, of Land Design South and as agent for Toll Brothers Communities, Inc., is
requesting site plan approval for 80 custom single family dwelling units in Pod "F" of the
Frenchman's Reserve Planned Community District, with a proposed density of 2.35 units per acre.
The 33.92 -acre is bounded by golf course to the north and west, Cabana Colony residential
community in unincorporated Palm Beach County to the south, and Frenchman's Forest County
Reserve to the east. (41- 34S -42E)
Senior Planner Edward Tombari reviewed the staff report, and noted the requested waivers and
conditions were consistent with prior approved pods in Frenchman's Reserve.
Mr. Channing made a motion to recommend to City Council approval of Petition SP -01 -08 for
Frenchman's Reserve Pod "D ". Mr. Volante seconded the motion, which carried by unanimous
6 -0 vote.
Mr. Channing made a motion to recommend to City Council approval of Petition SP -01 -06 for
Frenchman's Reserve Pod "F ". Mr. Volante seconded the motion, which carried by unanimous
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6 -0 vote.
Workshop
Petition PUD- 01 -03: Christ Fellowship Amendment to PUD
Joe Ryan, of Christ Fellowship Church, is requesting a PUD amendment to allow for the elimination
of certain conditions of approval regarding operational procedures and activities on site. Christ
Fellowship Church Planned Unit Development (a.k.a. North Campus) is located on the north side
of Northlake Boulevard, approximately 1-112 miles west of Military Trail. (14- 42S -42E)
Senior Planner Ed Tombari reviewed the staff report and explained that the applicant wished to amend
the original conditions to allow various activities on site. Alan Ciklin, representing the petitioner,
explained that the motivation for the conditions the applicant would like changed had been because of
things that were unknown, and now that the church had been in operation for a year they believed some
of these conditions to be unnecessary. Mr. Ciklin commented the shuttle bus reduced traffic and
increased safety, that the number of events per year were limited but if an event was not religious the
church would need a special permit from the City, the church had received requests to hold small
outdoor weddings and would like permission for the pastor to use a small microphone, requested
additional portable seats to be used when the allowed 1750 seats were filled so the people would not
have to stand, and requested permission to broadcast the sermon in the main sanctuary to the smaller
sanctuary. Mr. Ciklin noted all the requests were for religious activities, the church had been a good
neighbor, none of the other religious institutions in the City were under these types of conditions, and
the church felt it had earned the right to have these conditions relaxed. Discussion ensued. Mr. Ciklin
noted Trinity Methodist regularly used portable seating, that the request was for six events per year, and
people's ability to worship should not be limited. Mr. Tarr questioned whether concessions were given
for these conditions. Mr. Ciklin responded the church agreed to these conditions in the approval process
to be able to prove they could operate as a good neighbor at this location. Mr. Present commented the
shuttle was a good idea, and simulcasting would cut down on traffic. Mr. Volante indicated he did not
see the need for busses if sermons were simulcast, to which Mr. Ciklin responded the shuttle provided
safety and convenience so parents did not have to worry about leaving their services on the main campus
and driving across the street to pick up their children. It was clarified that traffic on Northlake was
required not to be stopped longer than 90 seconds at a time. Mr. Channing commented the shuttle bus
was a plus, that the City did not allow noise over a certain decibel level and that should govern the
loudspeaker, and he did not understand why the overflow seating or simulcasting were prohibited; but
the applicant should not come back to request additional seats or more special events. Mr. Charming
questioned the status in regard to religious litigation, which Mr. Ciklin indicated was proceeding through
the process and the church hoped for a reasonable outcome. Mr. Ciklin indicated the litigation would
not be brought up if the church did not get everything they were requesting; but that the church just
wanted to see what came out of the process, and commented staff had been very cooperative. The City
Attorney commented the City was trying to work this out and balance all interests but no conclusion had
been reached. Mr. Ciklin commented the church met all code requirements for considerably more than
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1,750 seats; however, was not asking to increase the number of fixed seats. Growth Management
Director Wu indicated the Board's decision needed to be based on code and the data presented in the
analysis provided.
OLD BUSINESS
There was no old business to come before the Commission
NEW BUSINESS
There was no new business to come before the Commission
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ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned at 9:44 p.m. The next regular meeting will
be held June 26, 2001.
APPROVED:
Dennis
Craig Kunkle, Jr., Dice Chair
Barry Present, Cha' IPro Tern
Dick Ansa
Alternate Mest Volonte
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Alternate David Kendall
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Betty L ur, Secr ary for the Meeting
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