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HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes P&Z 082603CITY OF PALM BEACH GARDENS PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING August 26, 2003 MINUTES The Regular Meeting of the Planning and Zoning Commission of the City of Palm Beach Gardens, Florida, was called to order by Chair Craig Kunkle at 6:30 P.M. in the Council Chambers of the Municipal Complex, 10500 North Military Trail, Palm Beach Gardens, Florida, and opened with the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag. REPORT BY GROWTH MANAGEMENT ADMINISTRATOR There was no report by the Growth Management Administrator. APPROVAL OF .MINUTES Mr. Solomon made a motion to approve the minutes of the August 12, 2003 meeting with typographical errors to be corrected. Mr. Pennell seconded the motion, which carried by unanimous 6 -0 vote. John Glidden arrived at this point in the meeting, at 6:35 p.m. ROLL CALL Betty Laur, Secretary for the meeting called the roll for Planning & Zoning Commission and Local Planning Agency: Present Chairman Craig Kunkle Chairman Pro Tern John Glidden — arrived at 6:35 p.m. Joel Channing Dennis Solomon Douglas Pennell Randolph Hansen Alternate Michael Panczak Absent Vice Chairman Barry Present Also in attendance were Principal Planner Talal Benothman, Planner Natalie Wong, and City Attorney Christine Tatum. Recommendation to City Council. (P&Z) Petition SP- 03 -07: Parcel27.03 A request by Codeur and Hearing, agent for Mall Properties, Ltd., for a site plan approval of a 68, 000 Planning & Zoning Commission Minutes August 26, 2003 square foot office building, including a 4,000 square foot bank with three- lane drive - through. The 5.59 acre site is located within the Regional Center Development of Regional Impact (DRI) in the northwest corner of Kew Gardens Avenue and PGA Boulevard. Senior Planner Natalie Wong presented the project. Mr. Panczak asked if the fifth waiver was consistent with PGA Boulevard, to which Ms. Wong responded yes. Mr. Solomon requested clarification regarding tenant signage. Ms. Wong explained that four signs were vested and the applicant was asking for two more signs facing PGA Boulevard, and if there were only four tenants the applicant would have six signs. Brian Chekas with Cotleur and Hearing showed the site location and reported what the applicant had done to address issues raised at the June 10, 2003 workshop: provided additional landscape planting, added a berm along PGA Boulevard, added a pedestrian path and seating area in the center island, changed the turning radius in the access to the bank drive through, and withdrew their request for a second monument sign. The applicant requested they be able to keep the bright copper colored roof. Requested waivers were reviewed. Mr. Panczak commented this was a great looking building but the eyebrow feature seemed out of scalea little large and cumbersome. Mr. Hansen expressed disappointment that the roof color had not been changed since he thought it would be garish and stated he would not be able to support the project with the roof that color. Mr. Hansen indicated he did not like the signage centered on the glass. Mr. Pennell stated he supported all the requested waivers, agreed with staff on the first floor signs, and stated he was in favor of the proposed roof color. Mr. Pennell expressed his opinion that by placing the signage on the glass the applicant had sacrificed visibility, but otherwise strongly supported what had been done. Mr. Solomon requested color boards of exterior colors for clarification of the yellow on the first two floors. The applicant explained that was a textured type of finish and the renderer could not accurately depict it on the elevation, and clarified the material and color from the samples. Mr. Solomon asked if there was rooftop mechanical equipment, towhich the applicant stated there was but it would not be visible. Mr. Solomon expressed his opinion there were too many signs on the building and stated he did not agree with tenant identification signs especially since they did not have six tenants and did not agree that there should be signage on the west side. Mr. Solomon asked how the proposed roof material would weather, to which the architect responded that it would weather just like any other metal roof and the copper color would remain the same. Mr. Channing asked where the blond color was used, to which the architect responded that it was an accent color on the medallions. Mr. Channing stated he liked the rendered elevation and he would like those colors. The architect explained that the colors done by Mr. Hearing's office were more accurate. Mr. Channing stated he was not happy with the roof color, it was too golden, and he would like something more copper and less gold. Mr. Channing discussed the signage. The applicant explained they were asking for two extra signs so they could have a sign on PGA Boulevard and on the mall loop road. Mr. Benothman stated nothing was vested until the city council approved, that the proper term would be "permitted by code ", and he only saw two bays on the first floor. Clarification of signage ensued: the First National Bank would be a primary first floor tenant; the applicant was requesting a tenant sign above every entrance to the building, the tenant signs were larger than the entry signs, the applicant was asking for signage above doors and those signs would not be large, the size of the letters on the west elevation over the doorways was approximately 12 " -18 ". Mr. Channing stated he would leave discussion of the signage to Mr. Glidden 2 Planning & Zoning Commission Minutes August 26, 2003 and his only problem with signage was they should not have more tenant signs. Mr. Glidden indicated the sidewalk should be around the perimeter of the project and should be extended where it stopped. Donaldson. Hearing responded that people did not walk along the mall loop road because it just did not make sense and they would be glad to look at it, but he would be very concerned if a perimeter sidewalk was mandated because it would add dollars to the project that the applicant believed unnecessary. Mr. Glidden advised the City was trying to encourage walking by placing sidewalks in many locations and he would defer to staff about that. Mr. Glidden expressed his opinion there would be a lot of people walking from this project to the mall and asked staff to carefully study this, looking at the comprehensive plan and LDR's and design guidelines. Mr. Glidden stated he liked the massing of the building. Regarding tenant signage, Mr. Glidden expressed his opinion that it did not matter how many tenants there were, and unless the commission felt the signage was over done, so long as it was tasteful they should grant the waivers, and he was in favor of approving the signs as shown no matter who got what signs; however, he would not agree with too much signage on a given face. Mr. Glidden stated letters should not be taller or wider than shown. Mr. Glidden stated he supported the waiver for the top signs but suggested a stucco feature could be created for the lettering. Mr. Glidden stated he would prefer the signage back on the side where it had originally been than to have the sign channels, which made the sign look like an afterthought. Mr. Glidden stated he was okay with the colors. Mr. Glidden agreed the copper color for the roof was too bright for the project and pointed out a darker version in a photo that might be more appropriate. Mr. Hearing commented the applicant could look at the same type roof and color from another manufacturer. Mr. Glidden suggested an opaque warmer color. The applicant confirmed this was a tilt wall building and shadow lines were discussed. The applicant was advised that there were enough commissioners for a consensus that they were not thrilled with the artificial copper color of the roof. Chair Kunkle stated the roof was too bright. Mr. Kunkle advised that the commission was not going to pick an alternate color but requested that between now and City Council presentation that the applicant move in the direction of old penny color as opposed to a new penny color. Chair Kunkle commented that Mr. Hearing's landscaping projects always turned out well but requested this landscaping be consistent with that already on PGA Boulevard and if a couple of species needed to be increased for consistency purposes that the applicant do so. Mr. Hearing agreed. Chair Kunkle stated he had no sign problems. Mr. Channing stated he had picked another color for the applicant to consider. MOTION: Mr. Channing made a motion to approve Petition SO -03 -07 with the following stipulations: 1. The metal roof color shall be Brownstone Signature 300 Standard Colors as shown on the color sheet of Metal Roof and Wall Systems. 2. Reveals shall have a 60 degree angle instead of a 45 degree angle. 3. There shall be a stucco element created for a backdrop for the main sign of the building as opposed to metal channels. 4. Signs over the first floor entrances shall be no larger in overall height and width than shown on the plans. Mr. Solomon seconded the motion. Mr. Glidden amended the motion to add consideration of addition of perimeter sidewalks shall be made at the discretion of staff after review of the various city guidelines. 3 Planning & Zoning Commission Minutes August 26, 2003 Ms. Wong advised the comment had been raised at the DRC meeting to provide sidewalks around the building perimeter, but staff had been satisfied with the central sidewalk connection as proposed. Mr. Glidden withdrew his amendment. Mr. Glidden called for clarification that the main signage in the middle of the curved roof element be no greater than shown and that the stucco element to be added to receive it be at least 150% of the height of the sign, to which Mr. Hearing agreed. Mr. Panczak commented he would like the copper roof toned down but did not agree that the brownstone would accomplish what the architect wanted to do. Mr. Hansen stated he was still hesitant to agree on the roof color from a small size. Mr. Hansen also did not agree with adding a stucco band across the glass and stated he would be inclined to go back to the signage on the side of the building. Mr. Pennell stated he could not support the motion which was forcing the applicant into brownstone for the roof and he still liked the original copper color. Mr. Pennell stated he would like the center sign moved to the right stucco the way it was on the other side of the building. Mr. Charming commented he agreed with Mr. Hansen and he hated to make a hasty judgment on the roof color. Mr. Channing suggested the applicant could come back or City Council could make the decision, but that was not what City Council wanted this commission to do, and the applicant had been told repeatedly the commission did not like the roof color and had not presented an alternative. Mr. Charming indicated he had been swayed on the central sign and agreed he would rather put the sign back to the side and he had changed his mind about the motion. Mr. Channing withdrew the motion. Mr. Hearing asked if it would be possible to come back in two weeks just for the signage and roof color even if at the end of the agenda. Mr. Benothman indicated the staff reports for the next agenda were due the next day. Chair Kunkle advised that a staff report would not be needed to look at the roof material options and the sign and he thought it could be done without a staff report. An 8 -1/2" x 11" of the sign was requested. Mr. Solomon agreed with bringing those two issues back and stated he agreed with placing the sign on the side. The applicant stipulated to moving the sign to the side, to have 60 degree angle versus 45 degree angle reveals, that the sizes of the signs would be to scale, and that they would come back at the next meeting on September 9 when the commission would deal with the roofmaterials and the applicant would bring larger samples. Public Hearing and Recommendation to City Council (LPA) Petition CP- 03 -09: Amendment to the Capital Improvements Element A city initiated request to amend the Capital Improvements Element of the City of Palm Beach Gardens Comprehensive Plan to update certain goals, objectives and policies and to include projects which are necessary for the City to continue to meet its adopted level -of- service standards Principal Planner Talal Benothman advised there was no power point presentation since the amendment was all text, and the reason for the request was to update the capital improvement element and to provide for a process to update the 5 -year capital improvement element every year. Chair Kunkle declared the public hearing open. Hearing no comments from the public, Chair Kunkle declared the public hearing closed. Mr. Pennell commented that the support documents led one to believe that with all the growth bringing in new revenue that eventually taxes would go down. Mr. Benothman commented to keep in El Planning & Zoning Commission Minutes August 26, 2003 mind as the city grew expenses would increase. City Attorney Tatum reported that the reason this process had been undertaken was they were also looking at impact fee ordinances, and Parks & Recreation and Police impact fees would be increased, and had seen that this element had not been updated. The law required this element to be updated annually, so the commission would see it every year in August when City Council was reviewing the budget. Mr. Benothman thanked Barbara Hayes, assistant to the City Attorney, who had created the entire document from scratch and it had no typos. MOTION: Mr. Solomon made a motion to recommend approval to City Council of Petition CP- 03 -09. Mr. Panczak seconded the motion, which carried by unanimous 7 -0 vote. OLD BUSINESS There was no old business to come before the Commission. NEW BUSINESS Mr. Glidden commented on how nice Burns Road had turned out and what a miserable example the City had set for others with a parking lot by the baseball field without one stitch of landscaping to buffer it from Burns Road, which was embarrassing to him. Mr. Benothman indicated this issue would be taken up with the City Manager. Mr. Glidden commented the City was not meeting their own code, and if nothing else, at least the entry to the project along Burns Road should be landscaped. 5 Planning & Zoning Commission Minutes August 26, 2003 ADJOURNMENT There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned at 8:05 p.m. The next regular meeting will be held September 9, 2003. /'*,*\A APPROVED: A BS 7' etty Lau f, Secretary for the Meeting 0