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HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes Council 091699• M CITY OF PALM BEACH GARDENS CITY COUNCIL REGULAR MEETING SEPTEMBER 16, 1999 The September 16, 1999, Regular Meeting of the City Council of the City of Palm Beach Gardens, Florida, was called to order at 7:00 P.M. in the Council Chambers of the Municipal Complex located at 10500 North Military Trail, Palm Beach Gardens, Florida; and opened with the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag. ROLL CALL The City Clerk called the roll and the following elected officials were found to be in attendance: Mayor Joseph R. Russo, Vice Mayor Lauren Furtado, Councilman David Clark, Councilman Eric Jablin, and Councilman Carl Sabatello. ANNOUNCEMENTS Mayor Russo stated the announcements were as posted. . CITY MANAGER REPORT Mayor Russo thanked the employees for their efforts in preparing for the hurricane. City Manager Herakovich announced that FEMA would reimburse the City for hurricane preparation expenditures. Mayor Russo requested that a letter be written to Palm Beach County to request additional shelters, and expressed concern that evacuation coordination was needed. The City Manager reported that SFWMD had opened flood gates early and thanked them for their attention to the City. Meetings with consultants Slavin and Bidol were discussed. Vice Mayor Furtado asked that the City Manager send a letter to the Turnpike Authority to request that the next planning process meeting for the turnpike interchange not be scheduled for a night when there was a City Council meeting so that all of the City Council could attend. Mayor Russo advised he had not attended the meeting in Washington with Pratt Whitney because they did not want to meet with local officials. Mayor Russo announced that a meeting with Larry Pelton and major landholders WCI, Catalfumo, Bills, and DiVosta was planned to discuss direction for the Economic Advisory Group in Northern Palm Beach County. AWARDING OF BIDS City Sign Funding for the City's Sign was discussed. Councilman Clark • proposed using the approved design only at key entrances to the CITY COUNCIL REGULAR MEETING, 9/16/99 2 • City with the same design carried through on a smaller scale for other entrances. It was the consensus of the City Council to submit the design to a sign company for new specifications and price proposal. Councilman Jablin made a motion to reject all bids for the City Sign. Vice Mayor Furtado seconded the motion, which carried by unanimous 5 -0 vote. Property, Casualty and Workers Compensation Insurance Councilman Clark made a motion to approve the staff recommendation to award the bid for Property, Casualty, and Workers Compensation insurance to Florida League of Cities in the amount of $795,488 annually. Councilman Jablin seconded the motion, which carried by unanimous 5 -0 vote. Bank Loan Councilman Clark made a motion to approve the staff recommendation to award the bid for a bank loan to fund Tennis Center improvements to Fidelity Federal Savings Bank at a fixed interest rate of 4.70% and a total of $196,610 per year for seven years. Councilman Jablin seconded the motion, which carried by unanimous 5 -0 vote. COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC Grant King Grant King, 631 Riverside Drive, requested a meeting for a new proposal for cleaning the canals. Mr. King was advised that the new proposal would be evaluated by staff and that an expert on dredging who had volunteered his time would be looking at the canals and providing his expertise. The evaluation report was anticipated by the next City Council meeting. Sam Carsillo Sam Carsillo commented regarding speeding on Military Trail, discussed the danger of speeding cars to residents going to mailboxes, and recommended a speed limit of 35 miles per hour. Mr. Carsillo commented that people were needed as school crossing guards rather than using police. The City Manager explained that recruitment efforts to obtain crossing guards were continuing. The City Manager also advised that with permission of the post office mailboxes could be moved from the street to the house. Mr. Carsillo commented residents should pay for additional fire, police and public works substations. Mayor Russo explained that a fire and police impact fee had been in effect for the past six years. Mr. • Carsillo requested more Code Enforcement. CITY COUNCIL REGULAR MEETING, 9/16/99 3 • Zola Hartman Mrs. Hartman thanked the City Council for working with residents on the canal situation, requested information on silt and water quality, and questioned whether noise pollution and air quality because of the lack of trees had been considered. Mrs. Hartman requested that the members of the City Council speak to the truck drivers who wanted the soil which was removed from the canals for nurseries, and commented that the soil was excellent for growing plants and that the nurseries would really like to have it, solving the problem of how to get rid of it. Mrs. Hartman urged the City Council to consider the dredging proposal that had been presented by the residents. CONSENT AGENDA Councilman Clark moved approval of the Consent Agenda. Councilman Jablin seconded the motion. The following items were approved on the Consent Agenda: 1. Approval of Minutes from 8/19/99 City Council Regular Meeting. 2. Approval of Minutes from 8/23/99 City Council Workshop. 3. Approval of Minutes from 9/2/99 City Council Regular Meeting. 4. Resolution 111, 1999 - Consideration of Approval of Disposable Assets. 5. Resolution 112, 1999 - Consideration of Approval of Authorization to Issue a Note in the Amount of $1,149,933. 6. Awarding of Contract for Fire Rescue EMS Medical Director PUBLIC HEARINGS Resolution 72, 1999 Mayor Russo declared the Public Hearing open, held on the intent of Consideration of Approval of a Sign Variance for Gardens Park Plaza., duly advertised 6/7/99; postponed from the 6/17/99, 7/15/99, and 8/19/99 Regular Meetings. There were no comments from the public. Councilman Clark made a motion to continue the Public Hearing for Resolution 72, 1999 to the 10/7/99 meeting. Vice Mayor Furtado seconded the motion, which carried by unanimous 5 -0 vote. Ordinance 33, 1999 Mayor Russo declared the Public Hearing open, held on the intent of Ordinance 33, 1999 - Providing for an Amendment to the Comprehensive Plan of the City of Palm Beach Gardens by Changing the Lane Use Designation on .33 Acres of Land Located is South of Idlewild Drive and 1/4 Mile East of Prosperity Farms CITY COUNCIL REGULAR MEETING, 9/16/99 4 • Road Palm Beach County Low Residential Medium (RM); Providing for Transmittal to the Department of Community Affairs - duly advertised 9/21/99 for Consideration of Second Reading and Adoption. Hearing no comments from the public, Mayor Russo declared the Public Hearing closed. Councilman Clark made a motion to approve Ordinance 33, 1999 on Second Reading by Title Only. Councilman Jablin seconded the motion, which carried by unanimous 5 -0 vote. The City Clerk read Ordinance 33, 1999 on Second Reading by Title Only. Ordinance 34, 1999 Mayor Russo declared the Public Hearing open, held on the intent of Ordinance 34, 1999 - Amending Ordinance 30, 1990 Which Approved a Conditional Use, to Allow an Increase in the Maximum Occupancy at the Site Known as "Christ Fellowship" Which is Generally Located on the South Side of Northlake Boulevard West of Military Trail, and to Amend the Approved Use of the Residence Building to a Youth Center, duly advertised 8/5/99 for Consideration of Second and Final Reading and Adoption. Staff recommended that Resolution 86, 1999 - Consideration of Approval of a Site Plan to Existing Christ Fellowship Church for Existing Second Story, Additional Parking, Time Extension for Existing Modular Units, Ground Sign and Other Site Plan Amendments be considered along with Ordinance 34, 1999. Alan Ciklin, representative for the Petitioner, made comments on behalf of the Petitioner. Resident Marilyn Jacobs expressed her opinion that residents and churches should be treated equally with regard to Code Enforcement, and stated her concern regarding increasing capacity of the church. Resident Joan Altwater requested additional information from Mr. Ciklin regarding comments he had made and commented regarding duplication of services, possible hazards from inadequate septic tank, parking and traffic concerns, and television transmission of services to the other buildings. Ms. Altwater was requested to provide a copy of her report to staff. Resident Bob Kaplan expressed parking concerns, concern for a double standard where the City was now being asked to condone behavior that would not be tolerated of residents. Kathy Barton, resident in Horseshoe Acres requested that the petitioner not be able to increase the capacity of their facility and be held to the same code as all other petitioners. Ken Coleman reported he had lived in Steeplechase 15 -1/2 years and the people there were more concerned with their roadways than with the church expansion and • its activities. Craig Cope, PGA National resident, addressed a letter 0 • • CITY COUNCIL REGULAR MEETING, 9/16/99 to the City from Siro DeGasperis and stated he and some of his neighbors had not been a part of the survey referred to in that letter; and stated he was in favor of the church's petition and was thrilled that the church had a place for young people to hang out. Dr. Scott Metlis, PGA National resident, commented that the issue was the impact on residents, that traffic should not be stopped to accommodate a church, that the church was not currently a good neighbor, and expressed his opinion that this petition should be rejected or considered only after the new facility had been occupied. The President of the Hunt Club spoke against increasing the capacity. Ms. Singer, resident of Steeplechase, spoke against increasing the church capacity. Hearing no further comments from the public, Mayor Russo declared the Public Hearing closed. Staff responded to questions from members of the City Council. Discussion ensued. Councilman Jablin and Councilman Clark recommended that the City Council set a figure for the south campus of 400 seats and not tie the seats to parking. The position of the other members of the City Council was that the applicant had met all of the conditions. Vice Mayor Furtado made a motion to approve Ordinance 34, 1999 on Second Reading by title only and for adoption. Councilman Sabatello seconded the motion, which carried 3 -2 with Councilman Jablin and Councilman Clark voting against the motion. The City Clerk read Ordinance 34, 1999 on Second Reading by title only. Re -Order Agenda Councilman Clark made a motion to re -order the agenda to next consider Resolution 86, 1999, after Ordinance 34, 1999 and before Ordinance 36, 1999. Vice Mayor Furtado seconded the motion, which carried by unanimous 5 -0 vote. Resolution 86, 1999 Staff presented Resolution 86, 1999 - Consideration of Approval of a Site Plan to Existing Christ Fellowship Church for Existing Second Story, Additional Parking, Time Extension for Existing Modular Units, Ground Sign and Other Site Plan Amendments. It was noted for the record that all comments made during consideration of Ordinance 34, 1999 were incorporated into consideration of Resolution 86, 1999. Councilman Sabatello expressed concern with traffic flow at the western entrance /exit as it was presently configured. Petitioner was given direction to reconfigure the intersection and then bring back the site plan for Council consideration. CITY COUNCIL REGULAR MEETING, 9/16/99 6 0 Ordinance 36, 1999 Mayor Russo declared the Public Hearing open, held on the intent of Ordinance 36, 1999 - Providing for an Amendment to the Comprehensive Plan of the City of Palm Beach Gardens by Changing the Land Use Designation of 8 Acres of Land Located North of Northlake Boulevard and East of Howell Lane from Recreation and Open Space to Public /Institutional Land Use; Providing for Transmittal to the Department of Community Affairs - duly advertised 9/1/99, for Consideration of Second Reading and Final Adoption. Hearing no comments from the public, Mayor Russo declared the Public Hearing closed. Vice Mayor Furtado made a motion to approve Ordinance 36, 1999 on Second Reading by title only and for adoption. Councilman Clark seconded the motion, which carried by unanimous 5 -0 vote. The City Clerk read Ordinance 36, 1999 on Second Reading by title only. Ordinance 37, 1999 Mayor Russo declared the Public Hearing open, held on the intent of Ordinance 37, 1999 - Providing for Amendment to Article III of the Palm Beach Gardens Code of Ordinances Entitled "Police Officers Retirement Trust Fund" - duly advertised 9/1/99, for Consideration of Second Reading and Final Adoption. Hearing no comments from the public, Mayor Russo declared the Public Hearing closed. Councilman Clark made a motion to approve Ordinance 36, 1999 on Second Reading by title only and for adoption. Councilman Jablin seconded the motion, which carried by unanimous 5 -0 vote. The City Clerk read Ordinance 37, 1999 on Second Reading by title only. Ordinance 38, 1999 Mayor Russo declared the Public Hearing open, held on the intent of Ordinance 38, 1999 - Providing for the Regulation of the Presence of Minors in Certain Public Places and Establishments During Certain Hours, Providing Definitions; Providing for Procedures for Taking Minors into Custody; Providing for Legal Duty of Parents; Providing Exceptions; Providing for Penalties for Violations of this Ordinance by Minors and/or Parents - duly advertised 9/1/99 for Consideration of Second Reading and Final J Adoption. Hearing no comments from the public, Mayor Russo CITY COUNCIL REGULAR MEETING, 9/16/99 8 • the City of $43,554,737. Councilman Clark seconded the motion, which carried by unanimous 5 -0 vote. Councilman Jablin made a motion to place Ordinance 44, 1999 on First Reading by Title Only with the text in Section 2 to read: For the year ending December 31, 1999, a tax of 4.3497 mills on each dollar valuation (representing a total of 3.9404 for current operations and .4093 for voted debt service) shall be and is hereby levied for the City of Palm Beach Gardens, Florida, etc. Councilman Clark seconded the motion, which carried by unanimous 5 -0 vote. The City Clerk read Ordinance 44, 1999 on First Reading by title only. RESOLUTIONS Resolution 95, 1999 Staff and Petitioner provided presentations regarding Resolution 95, 1999 - Consideration of Approval of Peter Pan School Time Extension. Councilman Clark moved approval of Resolution 95, 1999. Councilman Jablin seconded the motion, which carried by • unanimous 5 -0 vote. Resolution 103, 1999 Staff provided a presentation for Resolution 103, 1999 - Consideration of Approval of BallenIsles Sales Center Time Extension. Councilman Clark moved approval of Resolution 103, 1999. Councilman Jablin seconded the motion, which carried by unanimous 5 -0 vote. Resolution 109, 1999 Councilman Clark moved approval of Resolution 109, 1999, Consideration of Approval of an Appointment of One Member to the Beautification and Environmental Committee, with the name Donna M Wisneski inserted into the blank in Section I. Councilman Jablin seconded the motion, which carried by unanimous 5 -0 vote. Resolution 110, 1999 Vice Mayor Furtado moved approval of Resolution 110, 1999, Consideration of Approval of an Appointment of Four Members to the Parks and Recreation Advisory Board, with the names Charles Torrey and Jim H. Maynor in Section 1 and Christopher Holmes and Bette Bates in Section 2. Councilman Clark seconded the imotion, which carried by unanimous 5 -0 vote. CITY COUNCIL REGULAR MEETING, 9/16/99 9 Resolution 113, 1999 Councilman Jablin moved approval of Resolution 113, 1999 - Consideration of Approval of an Appointment to the Loxahatchee River Management Coordinating Council, with the name David Clark inserted in Section 1. Vice Mayor Furtado seconded the motion, which carried by unanimous 5 -0 vote. City Birthday Party Report Recreation Director Sue Miller provided a report on the status of preparations for the City's birthday party. ORDINANCES Ordinance 42, 1999 Councilman Clark made a motion to place Ordinance 42, 1999 on First Reading by Title Only. Councilman Jablin seconded the motion, which carried by unanimous 5 -0 vote. The City Attorney read Ordinance 42, 1999 on First Reading by Title Only. ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION 6- Laning of PGA Blvd Following a report by the City Engineer, it was the consensus of the City Council to that PGA Boulevard be 4 lanes rather than the proposed 6 lanes going west to the entrance to PGA National at Avenue of the Champions. In -House Engineer Based upon recommendations by Growth Management Director Manning, it was the consensus of the City Council to move forward with an In -House Engineer after the new City Manager was in place, and not to begin transition activities in advance of that time. Solid Waste RFP An RFB versus an RFP was discussed. It was the consensus of the City Council to obtain information from Palm Beach County regarding their pre - qualification process and franchise fees for C & D roll -offs. ITEMS & REPORTS BY MAYOR & CITY COUNCIL Issues & Priorities The Vice Mayor reported that at the MPO meeting she brought up the widening the Burns Road bridge section without widening the whole road, and that FDOT was to provide a report. The Vice Mayor requested direction as to whether to pursue this issue. It was the consensus of the City Council that the Vice Mayor continue her efforts to get the bridge widened. Councilman Sabatello requested better landscaping and maintenance criteria for the City's medians. It was the consensus of the City Council to place this issue on the issues and priorities list. 0 0 CITY COUNCIL REGULAR MEETING, 9/16/99 10 The City Manager reported she would set aside a block of time for meeting with consultant Slavin and that a report would be provided by consultant Bidol. CITY COUNCIL REGULAR MEETING, 9/16/99 11 ADJOURNMENT There being no further business to discuss, upon motion by Councilman Clark,, eco e�y Councilman Jablin, carried 5 -0, the meeting was rn at 10 p.m. APPROVAL: i RUSSO MAYZR LAUREN FURTADO CO ATTEST: I- ✓yERIC JABLIN 0- D CLARK DPI KOSIER, CMC, CITY CLERK SABATELLO - .-nro- Y . y e .. -, *' `% j; 'r'�'; `�iY/l�A��. f� 7•,s�a` �.,,. ;' "x" �a .,�' �„' .v'�... �,'.•, e� a '�'+" ^v* —ED 9/5/97 10/16/97 11/6/97 AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF 11/20/97 PALM BEACH GARDENS, FLORIDA, PROVIDING FO l N A L APPROVAL OF THE PETITION OF PALM BEACH GARDENS CHRIST FELLOWSHIP CHURCH FOR REZONING OF TWENTY (20) ACRES OF LAND LOCATED ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF NORTHLAKE BOULEVARD AND GIBSON ROAD TO A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT, IN ORDER TO CONSTRUCT A CHURCH SANCTUARY AND RELATED FACILITIES; PROVIDING FOR,CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL; AND, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. WHEREAS, the City of Palm Beach Gardens received a petition from Palm Beach Gardens Christ Fellowship Church for rezoning of 20 acres of land located on the northeast comer of Northlake Boulevard and Gibson Road to a Planned Unit Development; WHEREAS, the Planning and Zoning Department has reviewed said petition and determined that it is sufficient; and WHEREAS, the petition is consistent with the City's Comprehensive Land Use Plan. NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT ORDAINED BY THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF PALM BEACH GARDENS, FLORIDA: SECTION 1 The City Council of the City of Palm Beach Gardens, Florida, hereby approves the petition of Palm Beach Gardens Christ Fellowship Church for rezoning of 20 acres of land located on the northeast corner of Northlake Boulevard and Gibson Road to a Planned Unit Development, in order to construct a church sanctuary and related facilities. SECTION 2. Said Planned Unit Development is approved subject to the following conditions: l . Prior to the issuance of the first Building Permit, a boundary plat shall have been prepared, approved by City Council, and recorded in the public records of Palm Beach County. ���" ,�.', ` �S'" . Y�^ ,' • � R ' r< ; .. ��'�` +L[':_K?i�fy..��..i�y. L.,,"'+r�`Z� ui'S�` :,T., e'�Y�..��.., �T"+'t_- _• . ..,.a- •aTV�..c- .;.'.,+r!- .�n,�' :- ' -,,�., ..,. "_..•fq =. �ser�^ a ,m�a '- �_.`,.,',' ^'�: g'" �.'� _ :v �. , Ordinance 200999' . Page 2 2. Prior to the issuance of the first Building Permit, all necessary permits sha111l i,v "'- been obtained from South Florida Water Management District, Health and Rehabilitative Services, and Palm Beach County. 4. Prior to the issuance of the first building permit, the property owner or successor must obtain a driveway connection permit from Palm Beach County for the Northlake Boulevard entrance. If at any time the City determines that maintenance of the grass parking area is in disrepair or poor appearance, the City may require the owner or successor to correct the deficiency within thirty (30) days of receipt of written notice. Upon failure by the owner or successor to comply in the time provided, the City may require the parking area to be totally or partially paved within one - hundred -fifty (150) days of receipt by owner or successor of written notice. All such paving shall be conducted according to City standards at the time of paving. All costs shall be the responsibility of the owner or successor. 5. The landscaping and irrigation of Northlake Boulevard and Gibson Road as provided for in the plans shall be completed prior to the issuance of the first Certificate of Occupancy. The owner or successor shall be responsible for the perpetual maintenance of said landscaping. 6. The northern open space shall be used for recreational open space. No drive- aisles shall be extended to the northern green area or off -site to the east without approval by City Council. 7. The church sanctuary and related facilities and surrounding grounds shall be used by members only for regularly scheduled services, including services on Christmas Day and Easter Day, and for no more than six (6) additional events per calendar year. The church sanctuary and related facilities shall not be leased, rented or in any way made available for use as an auditorium, theater or similar gathering place for non - member events of any kind. Regularly scheduled services shall be defined as services occurring on Saturday evening, Sunday morning, and a mid -week evening. 8. All applicable municipal and county impact fees shall be payable contemporaneous with issuance of the first Building Permit. 9. The owner or successor shall not utilize a loudspeaker, sound amplifier, radio, phonograph, or similar sound amplifying device to emit any form of sound outside the church sanctuary and related facilities. K 10. The owner or successor shall utilize police or equally trained officials at all e'=� ingress and egress points along Northlake Boulevard for the management of z; ., -.-: -��.�. �. + -�.. �pxr -.. a. sysr�+'w.r�� — �. -r... era- �er-�ri3< �p�y �; r+ "_••�,.x ,.,.rr• --"'• ?. � �. ,... `.`,:s� ._ i��.?z�::"; , ``.:.,.. ,. ° r`:�;'.'.°�''�.,�ur�§SW+�+f��il ifi�i ���'' ��, I'�Ft*��'n '�.i°,�ai e. �:�3'"�':.�� •` ., `r'"�:`:`- ,a,` -:` traffic flow and direction before and'aRerAall�overits;includiti" ' "" B�� ` mdy.,echediiled events. The petitioner shall maintain a minimum of three (3) poli6vor "equally ° £` trained officials at all times for the direction and contol of traffic entering and exiting the site. As a guideline, traffic on Northlake Boulevard shall not be stopped for more than 90 seconds during the traffic control period. 11. The four traffic lanes located at the western portion of the site which provide access to /from Northlake Boulevard shall be utilized as follows: a) Following all services and events, traffic cones or other similar traffic devices shall be utilized so as to limit ingress to the site to one (1) lane; egress shall be provided via two (2) left -turn lanes and one (1) right -turn lane. b) During all other times, two (2) lanes shall be used as inbound lanes and • two (2) lanes shall be used as outbound lanes. 12. The number of fixed and/or moveable seats within the sanctuary shall at no time exceed,l-� 7 3" 13. Prior to the issuance of the first building permit, the petitioner shall submit a revised lighting photometric plan, indicating a maximum 20 -foot high light poles, for the City's approval. 14. Prior to the issuance of the Certificate of Occupancy, the petitioner shall erect a 6- foot wall along the site's northern property line. 15. Prior to the issuance of the Certificate of Occupancy, the petitioner shall install a 3 -foot grass berm adjacent to the northern limit of the paved parking aisle on the site. No parking shall occur in the area north of the parking lot and berm. SECTION 3. Construction of the Palm Beach Gardens Christ Fellowship Church Planned Unit Development shall be in compliance with the following plans on file with the City's Growth Management Department: 1.) November 12, 1997 Site Plan, Glen Pate & Associates, Sheet SP -1.0 2.) October 1, 1997 Architectural Elevations, Glen Pate & Associates, Sheets A -1.0 through A- 3.0 3.) October 28, 1997 Conceptual Floor Plan and Section, Glen Patte & Associates, 2 sheets 4.) November 14, 1997 Landscape Plan, George G. Gentile & Associates, Sheet L -1 5.) January 24, 1997 Landscape Elevations, George G. Gentile & Associates, Sheet L -2 6.) February 21, 1997 Landscape Elevations, George G. Gentile & Associates, Sheets L -3 through L -5. Ordinance 20,1"7, Page 4 7.) November 3, 1997 Irrigation Plan, George G:�Gentile ` Associates, Sheet 8.) September 30, 1997 Conceptual Drainage Plan, Kimley -Horn and Associates, Sheet C -1.0' SECTION 4. This Ordinance shall be effective upon adoption. PLACED ON FIRST READING THISDAY OF i, 1997. PLACED ON SE OND READING T IS AU/&DAY OF��J.OY�� , 1997. PASSED AN PTE ,.7 AY OF V��,�Q , 1997. 9s1'i' UCfSEOH R. RUSSO J' CIL -MAZJ LINDA MONROE �Z� VICE MAYOR LAUREN FURTADO NN • I a UV V1.11 Lin 0• 10 • ATTEST: APPROVED AS TO LEGAL FORM AND LINDA V. KOSIER, CMC, CITY CLERK SUFFICIENCY. VOTE: MAYOR RUSSO VICE MAYOR FURTADO COUNCILWOMAN MONROE COUNCILMAN JABLIN COUNCILMAN CLARK G:\SHORTR—I\PUD9604.OR CI I`Y ATTORNEY AYE NAY ABSENT �F x