HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes P&Z 102594CITY OF PALM BEACH GARDENS
• PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
OCTOBER 25, 1994
MINUTES
The Regular Meeting of the Planning and Zoning Commission of the City of Palm Beach
Gardens, Florida, was called to order by Chairman Jeffrey Ornstein at 7:30 P.M. in the
Assembly Room at the Municipal Complex, 10500 North Military Trail, Palm Beach Gardens,
Florida, and opened with the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag.
The roll was called by the Secretary:
Present
Absent
Jeffrey Ornstein, Chairman Phillip Lyddon
Carl Sabatello
Diane Carlino
Daniel Honig
William Mignogna
Thomas Pastore, Alternate
John Glidden, Alternate
Also present at the meeting were Assistant City Attorney Paul Golis, Assistant City Manager
Greg Dunham, and Mayor David Clark.
Chairman Ornstein announced that Mr. Michael Posner was no longer a member of the
Planning and Zoning Commission since he had moved out of the City of Palm Beach Gardens.
ITEMS BY PLANNING & ZONING DIRECTOR:
Richard Walton, Director, Planning and Zoning Department, was absent from the meeting.
ITEMS BY CITY COUNCIL LIAISON:
Mayor David Clark reported that at the last City Council Meeting the Council had approved
lighting the ball fields at Lake Catherine; made the determination that the request in regard
to the PGA Park of Commerce DRI was not a substantial deviation to the DRI, and denied the
request for re- zoning; and approved temporary landscaping for the Central Boulevard median
strip.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES•
Minutes of October 11. 1994 - Ms. Diane Carlino made a motion to approve the minutes as
submitted. The motion was seconded by Mr. William Mignogna. The motion was approved
by a 6 -0 vote. Mr. Carl Sabatello abstained.
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• October 25, 1994
SITE PLAN & APPEARANCE REVIEW
Workshop: Petition SP- 94 -11, by John Luedtke, agent for the John D. and Catherine T.
MacArthur Foundation, for the creation of a Parcel for the construction of 352, two- story,
apartment units. Located within the Regional Center Planned Community District. (6-425 -
43E)
Mr. Bristol Ellington reviewed the staff report dated 10/20/94 for Petition SP- 94 -11, the
Bayshore Club.
Mr. Daniel Honig questioned why the City's ordinance allowed a maximum of 5% of a project's
total required parking area to be covered parking. Mr. Ellington explained the percentage had
been adopted in order to limit the number of structures recognizing that within the planning
and development process there would be room for some deviation. During the ensuing
discussion of parking spaces, Mr. Ellington clarified that a total of 739 parking spaces were
required and the petitioner was providing 785 of which 368 would be surface parking, 178 would
be covered carports and 116 would be garage parking spaces with 116 tandem spaces. Mr.
Honig questioned whether there would be a requirement for fencing for protection of the
children. Mr. Ellington responded that staff would be able to provide that information at the
next meeting.
• Rhett Roy, Landscape Planner and Landscape Architect for the project, explained where the
newspaper racks were located in the recreation sites, and responded favorably to Chairman
Ornstein's suggestion that the news racks could have walls around them. Mr. Roy commented
that the number of dumpsters had been doubled.
Mr. Roy stated that additional covered parking spaces being requested by the petitioner were
based on market driven numbers. Chairman Ornstein expressed his position that the petitioner
should either stay with the 5% covered parking allowed by ordinance or provide every unit with
covered parking, and discussion ensued regarding the size and mix of apartments, and the fact
that covered carports would be an amenity and would provide additional rental income; or that
a situation could exist if tenants did not want carports that they would go unused, thereby
affecting parking. Mr. Luedtke, agent for the petitioner, explained that carports would not be
allowed to be unused and in that situation they would be included with the units and included
in the rent. Mr. Sabatello voiced concern that the City could become involved in policing,
patrolling, and hearing complaints that they had approved a project without the appropriate
parking spaces and allocations resulting in a tenant's carport being inconvenient to their unit
because a carport adjacent to the tenant's unit had been rented. Mr. Hoenig suggested a
solution could be a condition to allow only the rental of covered spaces in each pod to tenants
in apartments in that pod. Chairman Ornstein asked Attorney Golis for an opinion in the case
that if 50% of the parking were held out to be rented separately then the petitioner would no
longer meet the parking requirements. Attorney Golis stated that the petitioner could not do
that. Mr. Rhett Roy explained that the prices would not be set to trigger any of these
situations. Mr. Honig commented he saw nothing wrong with the developer deciding how many
parking spaces he could provide for appearance and to comply with codes, and believed the
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developer had done this well. Mr. Luedtke stated petitioner would have no problem agreeing
to language that would prohibit pod jumping. Mr. Glidden voiced concern that when parking
spaces were sold there could be a risk of having unused spaces. Mr. Sabatello expressed
concern with the west clusters which have bays covered and not covered, and suggested any
additional covered parking granted be used to cover these bays, so that islands would be
covered and the perimeters not covered in order to work aesthetically.
Discussion of lighting revealed post lights would be used, that tennis courts would be lighted
using luminaries to restrict light to the court area. Mr. Roy verified that areas along Gardens
Parkway would be landscaped and maintained, although not part of the property. Mr. Sabatello
requested the lake edge landscaping be shown on the plan and that proper setbacks be
maintained. Mr. Hoenig expressed concern regarding the inadequacy of one tennis court for
350 apartments and the close proximity of the tennis court to apartments.
Landscaping discussion included how the stucco walls would be shielded, to which Mr. Roy
responded that trees and bougainvillaea vines would be used in those areas. Mr. Sabatello
requested those areas be addressed and that petitioner provide a blow up of a typical area.
Detail cleared through Seacoast for the backflow assembly at the main entrance was also
requested. Petitioner verified that dumpster sites were large enough to satisfy requirements for
trash, garbage and recycling containers. Since everything would be built at one time, phasing
was not an issue. Petitioner verified that South Florida Water Management had reviewed lake
plans, and approved two bridges for convenient access, increased water surface area, and three
• water recycling and oxidation features.
According to the architect for the project, continuity would be achieved by using the same basic
style, trim, roof materials and window features throughout the project; however, the face color
of stucco would be varied from pod to pod.
Petitioner explained that the name Bayshore Club had been reconsidered and they were in the
process of deciding on a new name.
Discussion of the carport roofs included the point that people looking down on those roofs
would have a view of unattractive roofs that would collect trash, and the petitioner should
change the roof material to something more attractive which would be consistent with the rest
of the project. Mr. Glidden stated he felt the carports were the weakest spot in the project and
he would like to see fewer covered carport spaces with pitched roofs. Mr. Mignogna requested
that an aerial showing carports be presented at the next meeting to give perspective on how
massive the carport structures would be. Mr. Glidden stated he would like to see the present
amount of carport spaces reduced by 50 %, and Mr. Honig suggested breaking up the carport
structure into smaller structures. Mr. Sabatello commented the fronts of the buildings were
plain, and requested an elevation of the rear of the buildings along Gardens Parkway.
Chairman Ornstein requested the petitioner present all colors and samples at the next meeting.
Mr. Sabatello requested a sample of the railing material and color, and that the mailbox kiosk
and rear of the rec facility be shown on plans. Chairman Ornstein expressed traffic concerns
at the times when people would pick up their mail.
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After further discussion, the Site Plan and Appearance Review Committee had the following
comments and suggestions.
1. A wall should be constructed around the newspaper rack area.
2. Parkintz: One Committee member stated either provide 5% covered parking as allowed
by the Code, or provide a covered parking space assigned for every unit; two Committee
members did not care how many carports were provided; one Committee member stated
he believed the number of covered parking spaces should remain as presented by the
petitioner; the partially covered parking pods located to the west should be completely
covered parking so that the islands are covered and the perimeters are not covered.
3. The carport roofs are to be redesigned with a more attractive pitched roof elevation and
materials consistent with the rest of the project. It was suggested that an aerial
rendering of the carports be provided.
4. One Committee member suggested reducing the number of covered parking spaces
because of the overwhelming size of the structures.
It was also suggested that some redesigning of the carport structures could make them
appear less massive.
• 5. Landscanine: The area west of the entry, although not owned by the petitioner, will be
landscaped and maintained, and the plans shall reflect the type of landscaping to be
used.
The landscape plans shall reflect what is planned for the area between building #1 and
the water.
Blank walls at the end of the carports need to be landscaped, and plans shall be
submitted for a typical landscaping.
Dumpster landscaping needs to be shown on the plans.
A detail is needed of how the backflow assembly will be screened at the main entry.
This is to be approved by Seacoast Utilities.
6. One Committee member questioned why there was only one tennis court for such a
large complex.
7. Ascertain if there is a designated area for vegetative recycling pickup.
8. It was noted that the front of the buildings appear somewhat plain, and that rear
elevations are needed of the buildings along Gardens Parkway.
9. All color samples are to be provided at the next meeting. The plans need to identify all
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colors and materials.
10. The mailbox kiosk is to appear on the site plan. It was mentioned that traffic could be
a concern should all the residents pick up their mail at the same time.
Workshop: Petition SP- 94 -13, by Henry Skokowski, agent for PGA National Venture, Ltd., for
site plan approval to amend Parcel M -3 within the PGA National Community for the
construction of 44 attached residential units, having a gross density of 11.14 dwelling units per
acre. Located on the east side of the Avenue of the Champions, at its intersection with
Tournament Boulevard. (10- 42S -43E)
Mr. Bristol Ellington reviewed the staff report dated 10/20/94 and indicated a correction to the
report should be made to delete the comment regarding a 5 -foot sidewalk on one side of the
road since, in fact, there were no sidewalks.
Henry Skokowski, agent for the petitioner, reviewed the project and addressed the
commissioners' concerns regarding the reduction of the 30 -foot easement to a 20 -foot easement,
explaining that the application for that request had been filed with Northern Palm Beach Water
Control District. Mr. Skokowski suggested a 3 -way intersection be changed to a 4 -way with the
addition of a turn lane, and reported Mr. Kahart Pinder had been retained to conduct a traffic
analysis for the project, and his report would be available for the next meeting. Mr. Honig
• questioned lack of a continuous sidewalk to the clubhouse, and recommended putting a
sidewalk on only one side of the roadway. Mr. Honig also expressed concern that the project
was too crowded for a 5 -foot sidewalk. Mr. Glidden stated the 17 -foot setback on the Avenue
of Champions was very tight. Mr. Skokowski agreed to re- evaluate the sidewalk question with
the City Engineer.
A discussion ensued regarding the number of dumpsters which the commission felt was
excessive. Chairman Ornstein requested criteria be obtained from Waste Management so that
the commission would know requirements for dumpster sizes and recycling bins.
Mr. Sabatello questioned whether the paved area would be treated as a street and if the
commission should look at setbacks and cross sections; suggested decorative pavements should
continue to the gutter curbs; requested a blowup of landscaping in the 5 -foot setbacks from
building corners to parking areas; suggested relocation of the dumpster and the mailbox from
the cul -de -sac and elimination of 2 or 3 dumpster locations; and commented that the 15 -foot
building setback was insufficient with the massiveness of the building.
The following comments and suggestions were made by the Committee.
1. A letter is needed from NPBCWCD verifying whether a 20 -foot or 30 -foot easement is
required along the northern, southern and eastern perimeters of the site.
2. Some Committee members would like to have a sidewalk on one side of the street.
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3. It was noted there was only 5 feet between some parking spaces and the edges of the
buildings.
4. Staff is to obtain from Waste Management a criteria sketch of minimum size dumpsters,
including recycling dumpsters.
5. The buildings appear to be very crowded on the site, and perhaps the density should be
reconsidered.
6. Numbers need to be assigned to the buildings on the plans.
7. Staff is to determine if the street is a "street" or a drive court.
8. The decorative pavement should continue to the gutter curb.
9. Landscaping plan should show how the 5 -foot areas between the parking edge and
corner of the buildings will be landscaped.
10. One or two dumpster locations should be eliminated, and no dumpsters should be
located in the cul -de -sac.
11. Mailboxes should not be located in the cul -de -sac.
• 12. With the size of the buildings being massive, it was believed they were perhaps too close
together.
13. The landscaping needs to be very strong where one building protrudes outward.
Workshop: Petition SP- 94 -18, by Henry Skokowski of Urban Design Studio, agent for
MacArthur Holding A, Inc., for site plan approval to construct 68 custom zero -lot line homes
on 22.12 acres on Parcel 14 of the BallenIsles Planned Community District. (14- 42S -42E)
Chairman Ornstein related that this project had been presented at a prior meeting and that the
Commission's main concern had been that there had been no architectural standard for the
project.
Mr. Bristol Ellington reviewed the staff report dated 10/20/94.
Mr. Honig expressed concern that people would not be protected from massive structures next
to smaller homes, obstructing their views. Roy Davidson, BallenIsles, expressed the view that
people who wanted very large homes would go to developments that catered to that type of
home. Chairman Ornstein suggested restricting lot coverage to 50 %, and 5,000- square foot
homes. Mr. Skokowski presented photographs of homes in three existing zero -lot line
communities to demonstrate the attractiveness and success of this type of project.
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Mr. Skokowski reported that an architectural standard had been established for the project, and
presented the color palate for the project.
Mr. Skokowski informed the commission that Mr. Weiss had been chosen to construct the
project and that he had requested reorientation of six lots, which would be presented to the
commission at the next meeting. Mr. Honig requested the petitioner address the lot coverage
question at the next meeting. Roy Davidson commented they would agree to 66% lot coverage,
to which Chairman Ornstein expressed his opinion that would be too high. Mr. Glidden
suggested a beneficial variable might be front and side loaded garages. Problems existing at
Frenchman's Creek because of lack of criteria to protect homeowners from massive homes
being constructed on adjacent lots and blocking views were discussed.
Mr. Skokowski discussed ways the developer might enhance the quality of the pedestrian
experience within the project by using monies earmarked for crossings that were felt to be
unnecessary to provide two fountains, one on either side of the roadway. Chairman Ornstein
responded to Mr. Ellington regarding the sidewalk issue that he believed a sidewalk on one side
of the roadway would be sufficient and the Commission could make that recommendation to
the City Council; however, would have to abide by code and make a condition that sidewalks
would be required on both sides.
Mr. Sabatello suggested more distance between homes of the same color. Chairman Ornstein
stated that no two side -by -side homes should be identical. Mr. Sabatello suggested all setbacks
• be studied. Mr. Honig agreed, and particularly with setbacks from the water, so that no one's
view would be blocked. Mr. Glidden commented the worst case scenario would have to be
considered.
In summary and after further discussion, the Committee had the following comments and
suggestions.
The maximum lot coverage allowed and /or additional criteria shall be considered in
order to "protect one homeowner from another" for the single family, zero -lot line
homes.
2. Plans shall reflect the reorientation of several lots.
3. It was suggested there be more distance between homes of the same color.
4. Identical units shall not be located side -by -side.
5. All building setbacks need to be reviewed, including the setbacks from the water.
OLD BUSINESS
There was no old business to be considered.
NEW BUSINESS
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There was no new business to be considered.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned at 10.45 p.m. The next meeting
will be held November 8, 1994.
Jeffrey /Dr#steln, Chairman
Diane Carlino
Daniel Ao g
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Michael Posne
Jo idden, Alternate
ckie Holloman, Secretary
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Carl Sa
(Absent)
Phillip Lyddon
Chairman -Elect
Wi iam Mignogna
Thomas Pastore, Alternate