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CITY COUNCIL
REGULAR MEETING
CITY OF PALM BEACH GARDENS
OCTOBER 15, 1992
The Regular Meeting of the City Council of the City of Palm
Beach Gardens, Florida, was called to order by Mayor Martino
at 8:00 P.M., in the Assembly Room of the Municipal Complex,
10500 North Military Trail, Palm Beach Gardens, Florida;
and, opened with the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag.
The City Clerk called the roll and present were Mayor
Martino, Vice Mayor Russo and Councilwoman Monroe.
The Mayor stated the announcements were as posted on the
City's Bulletin Boards.
RESOLUTIONS
PrSOLUTION
—. 1992 Vice Mayor Russo made a motion, seconded by Councilwoman
Monroe, to approve Resolution 86, 1992, declaring the
results of the City's Special Election held on October 1,
1992, to fill the unexpired term for Group 3 seat. For City
Councilman Group 3, Eric Jablin was declared the winner with
2,093 votes.
ADMINISTRATION
OF OATHS OF
OFFICE The City Clerk administered the Oath of Office to Eric
Jablin who was elected in the October 1, 1992, Special
Election, to fill the unexpired term for Group 3 seat.
REORDER AGENDA
PUBLIC HEARINGS
RESOLUTION
1992 Mayor Martino declared the Public Hearing open, which was
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DONNA FOSTER
GEORGE
GM DIOLA
duly advertised 9/30/92, and held on the intent of Amendment
to Development Order for PGA National Resort Community, DRI,
requiring conveyance of r -o -w to Palm Beach County for use
as a public thoroughfare; reduce density; and requiring a
revised master plan within one year.
Rich Walton, Director of Planning and Zoning, addressed the
City Council stating the Petitioner is requesting an
amendment to the PGA National DRI. Mr. Walton stated this
would be a substantial deviation hearing to make three (3)
changes to the DRI. Mr. Walton stated the Petitioner has
forwarded a letter dated 10/15/92, requesting the Public
Hearing on Resolution 89, 1992, be recessed until the
11/5/92 Regular Meeting. The reasons surrounding the
postponement were Treasure Coast Regional Planning Council
and the Department of Community Affairs staff had stated, in
their opinion, supporting data was not clear and convincing,
and requested additional data on area wide traffic concerns
not presently available. Mr. Walton stated all indications
are Palm Beach County will be able to provide the needed
data by the 11/5/92 meeting.
Donna Foster, Department of Community Affairs, addressed the
City Council stating DCA would preserve the their right to
appeal the amendment to the development order which may be
approved for the DRI.
George DeGuardiola, representing National Investment
Company, developers of PGA National, addressed the City
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Council stating they were in the process of accurately and
thoroughly developing the data. Mr. DeGuardiola stated they
were working in conjunction with the County, City, Treasure
Coast Regional Planning Council and Department of Community
Affairs to come to conclusions as to the impacts the removal
of Jog Road would have on PGA National. Mr. DeGuardiola
stated they do not have the data to arrive at these
conclusions at this time, however felt the forthcoming data
would clarify the issue. Mr. DeGuardiola felt this issue
could be put to rest in the next 2 to 3 weeks.
Mayor Martino pointed out the developer and the City are
taking back 1,500 units from the originally approved 6,900
units with Resolution 89, 1992.
Mr. Tonnessen, 303 Eagleton Estates, addressed the City
Council requesting information as to why this has taken so
long.
Mayor Martino stated although Resolution 89, 1992 was
introduced recently, the process for the removal of Jog Road
has been on -going between the developer, Palm Beach Gardens,
and the County.
Calvin Schwartz, Bentwood Road, addressed the City Council
requesting to see information on units being deleted.
Councilwoman Monroe expressed concern that it would take one
year to present a revised master plan and requested Mr.
DeGuardiola try to accelerate the data.
Mr. DeGuardiola stated between now and the 11/5/92 Council
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W� meeting, they would determine if a revised master plan could
be completed in a shorter period of time. Mr. DeGuardiola
stated he would have a map of the development on legal size
paper for handouts at the 11/5/92 meeting.
In response to Vice Mayor Russo, Mr. DeGuardiola stated the
Petitioner did not have a problem including a condition in
the Resolution stating they will not increase the density on
any of the remaining pods.
In response to Councilman Jablin, Mr. DeGuardiola stated
this reduction is approximately 25% of the approved units.
In response to Jay Adolph, 10690 Avenue of the PGA, Mayor
Martino stated the removal of Jog Road is part of this
Resolution.
Councilwoman Monroe made a motion, seconded by Vice Mayor
Russo, to recess the Public Hearing on Resolution 89, 1992,
until the Regular City Council Meeting of 11/5/92 at
approximately 8:00 P.M. The motion was unanimously approved
by the City Council.
ORDINANCES
ORDINANCE
Rich Walton, Director of Planning and Zoning, addressed the
City Council stating Ordinance 23, 1992, Comprehensive Land
Use Plan Amendment #91 -2, included all items which have been
workshopped and discussed for some time. Mr. Walton stated
the back up material included an 10/1/92 memorandum to the
Council stating there are other items being considered
besides the MacArthur Foundation land; i.e., future land use
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map and text changes relating to the Recreation Element.
Mr. Walton stated responses to questions raised during the
workshops are included in the package.
Mayor Martino read a prepared statement directed to the
Legislative Record regarding Ordinance 23, 1992,
Comprehensive Land Use Plan Amendment #91 -2 (copy attached),
whereby he recommended reference to the 10,000 acres be
withdrawn from this Comprehensive Land Use Plan Amendment.
Councilwoman Monroe made a motion, seconded by Vice Mayor
Russo to advise the Department of Community Affairs of the
Council's decision to withdraw the City's Comprehensive Land
Use Plan Amendment #91 -2 via the proper, legal and statutory
notification.
Attorney Brant stated included with the MacArthur Foundation
tract were changes to the land use map for recreational
sites and administrative details to the recreational areas
and requested consideration to eliminate those items if the
Council voted to terminate the process. Attorney Brant
stated otherwise the City cannot go forward with the
administrative items.
Mr. Walton stated there are 3 future land use changes, 1)
Lilac Street Water Treatment Plant, 9.745 acres; 2) Hood
Road Welifield Repump Site, 2.28 acres, and 3) City
Recreation Center Site, 1.296 acres. Mr. Walton stated
staff has requested these items be changed on the future
land use map and text changes to include Riverside Drive
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Recreation Center and The Oaks Recreation Center in the
Comprehensive Plan Capital Improvements Element. Mr. Walton
stated originally the golf course was part of the amendment,
however, Bobbie Herakovich, Recreation Director, requested
that be considered as a special use and will be addressed
with the next amendment. Mr. Walton stated there is also a
revised Capital Improvements Table 9 -3 to be included in the
amendment. Mr. Walton stated the ORC report stated there
were no objections to these items.
Attorney Brant stated, in his opinion, there were no
problems retaining this portion of the Ordinance for future
consideration.
Mayor Martino stated Chapter 163 of the Statutes required a
letter of notification from the City of Palm Beach Gardens
to the Department of Community Affairs which would delineate
what the Council's actions were, which was to withdraw the
university site portion of amendment 191 -2 and retain the
items which deal with the Lilac Street Plant, Hood Road
Wellfield, Riverside Drive Recreation Center and the text
changes to the Recreation Element.
Mr. Walton stated Ordinance 23, 1992 has been advertised for
second reading and public hearing on Thursday, October 22,
1992.
Attorney Brant stated Councilwoman Monroe's previous motion
would stand, subject to an amendment being, any items
pertaining to the future land use map changes as Mr. Walton
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read into the record, together with Capital Improvements
Implementation and Table 9 -3, which has no application to
the proposed university site, would be retained by the
Council in the process.
Councilwoman Monroe amended her motion to include "except
for consideration by the Council of amendment of the
Comprehensive Plan by adding 3 parcels of land to the future
land use map, that being the Lilac Street site, Hood Road
site and the existing City Recreation site located on
Riverside Drive, together with a change of text in Capital
Improvements pertaining to Recreation and also consideration
of any change in the Table 9 -3, pertaining basically to
Recreation ", seconded by Vice Mayor Russo.
Vice Mayor Russo expressed concern with the Comprehensive
Plan requiring only 3 1/2 acres per 1,000 residents for
parks. Vice Mayor Russo felt the Comp Plan should be
amended to require the 4 1/2 acres presently available and
then amend the Recreation Impact Ordinance to require
developers provide the 4 1/2 acres.
Mr. Walton stated Ms. Herakovich will be presenting a
proposal to the Recreation Advisory Committee to form a task
force to evaluate and /or rewrite the level of service. Mr.
Walton stated this issue could be considered at the next
transmittal.
In response to Councilwoman Monroe, Mr. Walton stated the
next transmittal would be as soon as this information could
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be processed.
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The motion was unanimously approved by the City Council.
Attorney Brant stated, after speaking with K.C. Collette,
Assistant County Attorney, the Council should make a motion
confirming they will not consider an ordinance pertaining to
the MacArthur Foundation tract until a resubmittal is made
and the process is continued.
Councilwoman Monroe made the motion, seconded by Vice Mayor
Russo. The motion was unanimously approved by the City
Council.
John Parsons, 1018 Seagrape Way, addressed the City Council
re: environmental area and expressed his opposition to
pursuing a college in the north county area.
Walter Chinn, 2287 Sunderland Ave, Wellington, addressed the
City Council stating he was an employee of FP &L and
requested the City Council keep open the possibility of
having a university in the north county area.
Terry Walker, Sierra Club, addressed the City Council and
applauded the direction Palm Beach Gardens was taking in
reduction of density.
Beverly Pope, 5D Lexington Lane East, addressed the City
Council and commended the Council for taking a lead in
getting a university in the north county area.
Mayor Martino stated consideration of First Reading of
ordinance 23, 1992, would occur later in the Agenda.
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ri4EMS BY THE
CITY MANAGER
PAGE 9
EMS The City Manager reviewed the contingency plan implemented
after the collapse of Inter -City and briefly reviewed
options available to the City at this time. The City
Manager stated North County is willing to take over Inter -
City's contract, which runs through September 30, 1993. The
City Manager indicated Palm Beach County Fire - Rescue has
expressed interest in negotiating a two -year contract. The
City Manager stated Life Fleet has also submitted a zero
base proposal.
Councilwoman Monroe stated she would prefer to stay with
North County at this time and thoroughly investigate all
options for the next fiscal year.
Councilman Jablin stated he preferred going with Palm Beach
County Fire- Rescue, however, would like a shorter term than
a two -year contract. Councilman Jablin also would like to
form a task force to investigate the possibility of bringing
emergency medical services in- house, which would include ALS
and BLS.
Vice Mayor Russo felt the City should go with Palm Beach
County Fire - Rescue, as they would provide other assets other
than just emergency medical services.
Mayor Martino felt the City should negotiate with North
County to provide emergency medical services through
September, 1993, and, that would give the City the
-� opportunity to thoroughly explore all other options.
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After further discussion by the City Council, Councilwoman
Monroe made a motion authorizing the City Manager to
negotiate with North County to provide emergency medical
service until there is another motion to change providers,
seconded by Vice Mayor Russo. The motion was unanimously
approved by the City Council.
ITEMS BY MAYOR
COUNCILWOMAN
MONROE In response to Councilwoman Monroe, the City Manager stated
he sent out a memo authorizing the Fire Department to
continue to be dispatched to all emergency medical alarms
within the City and to provide written documentation re:
number of units, number of personnel and type of medical
problems encountered.
COUNCILMAN
JABLIN Councilman Jablin reported attending last night's meeting at
the high school conducted by Commissioner Marcus re: Jog
Road. Councilman Jablin stated he would like something in
the record committing Palm Beach Gardens to lowering
densities, so an alternate route for Jog Road would not be
required.
After further discussion by the Council, Councilwoman Monroe
made a motion for the Mayor to write a letter to the County
Commissioners stating that within the next 6 months, the
City will look at historical development patterns in Palm
Beach Gardens and compare that with the Land Use map; review
comments made by the Department of Community Affairs
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~~ regarding the City's Comprehensive Plan to determine if
lowering densities would be acceptable; advise other
northern Palm Beach County communities of the City's
proposed planning actions in hopes that, in the same spirit,
they would do the same; and, look at roadway capacity at
build -out per the County's Thoroughfare Plan and attempt to
match those numbers, seconded by Vice Mayor Russo. The
motion was unanimously approved by the City Council.
COUNCILWOMAN
MONROE Councilwoman Monroe made a motion, seconded by Vice Mayor
Russo, to postpone Items #1 and 2 under Items for Discussion
until the next Regular Council Meeting. The motion was
unanimously approved by the City Council.
rICIPAL LEAGUE
COMMUNICATIUN Mayor Martino reported the DCA had Rule 9J -5 -
COMMENTS FROM
THE PUBLIC
RUSSELL SCOTT
TOM CELENTANO
Revisions /Stipulation of Non - Compliance changed which could
conceivably have an affect on municipal government and would
provide the Council with a copy of the memorandum.
Russell Scott, 4075 Tanglewood #522, addressed the City
Council regarding complaints he had against the Police
Department.
Tom Celentano, Military Trail, addressed the City Council
re: Council of Neighborhoods being formed.
CATHERINE HEISER Catherine Heiser, 112 1st Lane, addressed the City Council
re: need for K -9 unit in Police Department in Palm Beach
Gardens.
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c-dNSENT AGENDA Vice Mayor Russo made a motion, seconded by Councilwoman
Monroe, to approve the following items on the Consent
Agenda:
1. Approval of Minutes - City Council Regular Meeting,
9/17/92.
2. Proclaiming 10/24 -11 /1 as "Florida Red Ribbon Week ".
6. Resolution 93, 1992 - Authorizing Mayor and City Clerk
to execute an Easement Deed to Seacoast Utilities for a
20" Utility Easement and a lift station easement
located within Lot 14, Block 49, Palm BEach Gardens
Plat No. 5.
7. Resolution 94, 1992 - Approving Plat of "The Oaks -Oaks
East -Plat 4, created by Ordinance 31, 1989.
8. Resolution 96, 1992 - Appropriating Salaries & Fringe
Benefits for Police Chief & Assistant Chief.
The motion was unanimously approved by the City Council.
RESOLUTION
992 In response to Councilwoman Monroe, Mr. Walton stated Mark
Hendrickson, City Forester, had agreed that trees larger
~ than the 4' oaks trees proposed by Petitioner would not be
able to take hold and grow due to the small area left by the
widening of Military Trail.
Councilman Jablin made a motion, seconded by Vice Mayor
Russo, to approve Resolution 75, 1992 - Approving a variance
to approved landscape requirements on the site of Palm Beach
Savings Bank. The motion was unanimously approved by the
City Council.
RESOLUTION
,/-/, 1992 In response to Councilwoman Monroe, Mr. Walton stated the
Petitioner requested a wall - mounted sign on the west
elevation of the building rather than a roof - mounted sign.
Building Official, Jack Hanson, has reviewed the plan and
`� indicated that the proposed wall sign, approximately 30
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square feet, was 13.2 square feet over code allowance per
Section 155.10(A)(2), of the City's Zoning Code, and also
indicated the wall sign was not located on the building
elevation containing the entry door as per Section 155.02 of
the Code. Councilwoman Monroe stated she was not in favor
of the wall sign as it exceeded Code by 13.2 square feet.
In response to Mayor Martino, Mr. Jim Fullwood stated the
color of the sign will be consistent with the pylon sign and
will be backlit.
Vice Mayor Russo made a motion, seconded by Councilman
Jablin, to approve Resolution 77, 1992 - amending Resolution
5, 1989, Site Plan of "Mr. Bubbles Car Wash ", re: Signage
and canopy. The motion was approved by a vote of 3 - 1.
Councilwoman Monroe cast the nay vote for reasons previously
stated.
RESOLUTION
87, 1992 In response to Councilwoman Monroe, Mr. Palmieri of Creative
Restaurant Ventures, stating the existing sign is relatively
the same size as that proposed. Mr. Palmieri stated the
proposed sign is 31x10' and the existing sign is 2.5' by
12'.
Vice Mayor Russo made a motion, seconded by Councilman
Jablin, to approve Resolution 87, 1992 - Minor Amendment to
Ordinance 18, 1977, approving signage for Stetson's American
Grill Restaurant, Gardens Square Shoppes. The motion was
unanimously approved by the City Council.
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z,dBLIC HEARINGS
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RESOLUTION
8, 1992 Mayor Martino explained the City Council was sitting as a
quasi judicial board regarding this petition.
Vice Mayor Russo requested, after the Petitioner addressed
the Council, Attorney Brant outline the Code provisions
which would allow for a variance.
Mayor Martino declared the Public Hearing open, which was
duly advertised on 9/30/92 and held on the intent of
approving a variance for signage and landscaping for
"Publix ", Gardens Towne Square, 4200 Northlake Boulevard.
Andrew Brock, agent for Petitioner, P.B.G.S. Ltd., addressed
the City Council requesting a variance for a monument sign
at the entry of Gardens Towne Square. Mr. Brock stated they
are requesting a variance of 5' in height from the required
10' in height for ground signs and a variance of 10' in
landscaping on both sides of the sign from the required 15'
of landscaping per Section 155.09(C). Mr. Brock stated they
have made one minor change in the proposed drawing, which
was the removal of all neon from the sign. Mr. Brock stated
they are requesting the reveals be allowed to remain and be
painted. Mr. Brock stated they are requesting the variance
because of the renovation of the existing center and the
existing landscaping. Mr. Brock stated, at the City's
request, they have increased the buffer zone along Northlake
Boulevard by creating a rolling berm which varies in height
�- from 1' to 31, with the addition of many live oaks trees to
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meet current code. Mr. Brock stated due to the number of
trees and height of the berm, a monument sign was needed to
show names of tenants. Mr. Brock stated the Petitioner has
changed the name of the center from "Palm Beach Gardens
Square" to "Gardens Towne Square" and felt it was important
for identification purposes that the public know where
Gardens Towne Square was located. Mr. Brock stated the
landscaping provided in the existing median at the entry way
precludes them from meeting the 15' width requirements for
landscaping on the sides of the sign. Mr. Brock stated the
shopping center was constructed under the old sign code and
that requirement was not in existence at that time. Mr.
Brock felt it was impossible for them to make the center
island meet code, because it would decrease the size of the
driveways and prevent proper ingress /egress. Mr. Brock
stated they plan to supplement the landscaping plan with the
addition of twelve 25' high Royal Palm trees at the entrance
way. Mr. Brock stated because of the landscaping on the
sides of the sign, they will have a 2' - 4' hedge of ixora
plants. Mr. Brock stated any reduction in the size of the
sign would put the tenants signage at a lower level, and
landscaping on the sides of the sign would prohibit tenant
names from being seen. Mr. Brock stated Publix is located
so far back from Northlake Boulevard, their signage would
not be visible from the roadway.
There being no comments from the public, Mayor Martino
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declared the Public Hearing closed.
Mayor Martino recalled the sign was 15' in height to begin
with and the Council suggested the Petitioner use the
current sign in it's casement for the project, and felt the
presentation this evening was basically the same size,
however, the casement had been improved.
In response to Mayor Martino, Mr. Brock stated the sign
colors would match with those in the shopping center. Mr.
Brock stated the words "Gardens Towne Square" would be red
#209 used throughout the center; Publix would like their
green identification sign, and, the future tenants' signs
could be within the existing color approvals.
Attorney Brant read, for the record, Section 155.18(A)(1),
authority to grant variance, petition, fee procedure.
Attorney Brant stated this case was being pleaded because of
the older requirements of the shopping center. Additional
landscaping under the original site plan is why they could
not meet the landscaping requirements according the Sign
Code as it exists today.
Councilwoman Monroe expressed concern that the Petitioner
was doubling the length of the sign. Councilwoman Monroe
felt a creative sign could be achieved that is not 15' in
height.
In response to Vice Mayor Russo, Mr. Brock stated even if
the sign was 10' in height, he would still need a variance
of 5' of landscaping on the sides of the sign, as there is
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only 5' on the sides.
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Councilwoman Monroe stated she would like the motion to
indicate where the variance meets the intent of the Code.
Attorney Brant once again read Section 115.18(A)(1)
authority to grant variance, petition, fee procedure.
Attorney Brant stated the variance cannot be based on
economics.
Councilman Jablin made a motion that Resolution 88, 1992, be
approved based on the following reasons which are consistent
with the Sign Code: 1) this particular shopping center was
approved years ago under an old set of standards as far as
signage is concerned; 2) existing today is a 15' sign which
would satisfy the height requirement, it is also consistent
with the approval given to this particular project when it
was here the first time; and since this particular site plan
was approved years ago, we are faced with a renovation, the
island the sign finds itself in existed at that time and
that's the main reason why the landscaping variance has to
be met; seconded by Vice Mayor Russo.
Councilwoman Monroe stated she would be voting against
approving this Resolution, because it could be a smaller
sign, could be designed where Publix or any other tenant's
signage could be visible and felt what the applicant has put
into the record is a financial hardship. She stated she
could accept the landscaping issue, but the very fact that
the sign coming down was the same height, but nearly half
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the width tells us this property owner is requesting
considerably more than what is there now.
Resolution 88, 1992 was approved by a vote of 3 ayes and 1
nay. The nay vote was cast by Councilwoman Monroe for
reasons previously stated.
ORDINANCE
22, 1992 Mayor Martino declared the Public Hearing open, which was
duly advertised 9/30/92, and held on the intent of Ordinance
22, 1992, amending Ordinance 5, 1989, which created "Golf
Estates Villas ", by providing for a one year time extension
for issuance of building permits.
Mr. Walton stated this item was workshopped and there were
no problems.
There being no comments from the public, Mayor Martino
declared the Public Hearing closed.
Per a consensus of the City Council, the City Clerk read, by
title only, on second and final reading, Ordinance 22, 1992.
Vice Mayor Russo made a motion to approve Ordinance 22,
1992, seconded by Councilwoman Monroe. The motion was
unanimously approved by the City Council.
RESOLUTIONS
RESOLUTION
90, 1992 Mr. Walton stated the Petitioner is requesting a minor
amendment to the Admiralty II PUD to replace the existing
signage with a new sign for Boston's Steak & Seafood
Restaurant.
In response to Vice Mayor Russo, Mr. Walton stated the
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proposed sign would be located higher than the 2nd floor and
exceeded the Sign Code by approximately 17 square feet.
Attorney Raymond Royce, agent for Petitioner, addressed the
City Council stating this was a PUD and the Council was not
strictly bound by the terms of the Sign Code. Attorney
Royce stated this would not be an exposed neon sign as they
are proposing an opaque covering over the channel letters.
Mr. Royce stated the colors would tie into the color scheme
already approved for the building.
Councilwoman Monroe expressed concern with the proposed sign
exceeding Code by 17 square feet.
In response to Mr. Pappalardo, Councilwoman Monroe stated
she wanted the City to further investigate and response if
there was undue competition being allowed at the Holiday Inn
due to their number of signs. Councilwoman Monroe requested
a report from staff on this matter.
Councilwoman Monroe requested the Petitioner look at
reducing the square footage.
Councilman Jablin made a motion, seconded by Vice Mayor
Russo, to approve Resolution 90, 1992, minor amendment to
Admiralty II PUD, approved by Ordinance 15, 1987, re: sign
for "Boston's Steak & Seafood Restaurant ". The motion was
unanimously approved by the City Council.
RESOLUTION
2 Mr. Walton stated the Petitioner is requesting a one year
time extension to complete the renovation of the former bank
building.
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Don Hearing, agent for Petitioner, addressed the City
Council stating there was a funding problem in the
renovation. Mr. Hearing stated all plans are completed for
the renovation.
Councilwoman Monroe made a motion, seconded by Vice Mayor
Russo, to approve Resolution 91, 1992, minor amendment to
Comfort Inn PUD (f /k /a Gardens Suites Hotel), approved by
Ordinance 53, 1988, re: extension of time for completion.
The motion was unanimously approved by the City Council.
RESOLUTION
Councilwoman Monroe stated she was abstaining from
discussion and voting on Resolution 92, 1992, as she is on
the Board of Directors for Palm Beach Gardens Medical
Center.
Mr. Walton stated the Petitioner is requesting a one year
time extension for expansion of the Medical Center PUD
approved 10/3/91. Mr. Walton stated the Petitioner is also
requesting an amendment to the PUD phasing schedule.
Attorney Raymond Royce, agent for Petitioner, addressed the
City Council stating the phasing schedule was contained in
the blueprints which were made a part of the approval
approximately one year ago, and one of the major items in
the phasing schedule was the construction of the Women's
Center which was to begin this year. Attorney Royce stated,
because of the economic situation and the difficulty of
obtaining financing, the phasing schedule has been modified
to provide the construction of the Women's Center in Phase
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3, which is scheduled to begin in March, 1994.
In response to Vice Mayor Russo, Attorney Royce stated the
storage facilities have been removed from the site.
Vice Mayor Russo made a motion, seconded by Councilman
Jablin, to approve Resolution 92, 1992, minor amendment to
PBG Medical Center PUD approved by Ordinance 28, 1992, re:
extension of time for completion. The motion was approved
by a vote of 3 ayes. Councilwoman Monroe abstained for
reasons previously stated.
RESOLUTION
95, 1992 Attorney Brant stated Judge Brown determined on September
25, 1992, Councilman Kiselewski's resignation was made
retroactive to July 17, 1992. Attorney Brant stated the
City's Charter reads that within 60 days of the date of a
resignation by a member of the Council, the City Council
shall establish and conduct a Special Election within the 60
day period, unless a General City Election shall be held
with 180 days of the effective date of the resignation.
Attorney Brant stated he felt the Council was on safe legal
ground following the edicts of the Charter in holding a
Special Election to fill the unexpired term of Group 5.
There was a consensus of the City Council to amend the dates
in Resolution 95, 1992, to hold the Special Election on
December 1, 1992, and, if necessary, to hold the run -off on
December 15, 1992, and, changing the qualifying period to
October 26, 1992 through November 6, 1992.
Councilwoman Monroe made a motion to approve Resolution 95,
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1992, as amended, seconded by Vice Mayor Russo. The motion
was unanimously approved by the City Council.
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ORDINANCE
2 Per a unanimous vote of the City Council, the City Clerk
read, by title only, on first reading, Ordinance 23, 1992
Comprehensive Land Use Plan Amendment #91 -2.
Mayor Martino stated the Public Hearing and consideration of
adoption of Ordinance 23, 1992, was scheduled for Thursday,
10/22/92, at 8:00 P.M.
ORDINANCE
Per a consensus of the City Council, the City Clerk read, by
title only, on first reading, Ordinance 24, 1992, amendment
to NorthCorp PCD, re: uses and clarification of specific
ti conditions.
ORDINANCE
251 1992 Per a unanimous vote of the City Council, the City Clerk
read, by title only, on first reading, Ordinance 25, 1992,
amendment to Ordinance 3, 1985, approving a 2 year time
extension for completion of Gardens Plaza PUD.
Mayor Martino stated Ordinance 25, 1992 is scheduled for
Public Hearing at the City Council Regular Meeting of
11/5/92.
ORDINANCES
WORKSHOP
ORDINANCE
2 Mr. Walton stated there are 2 separate applications to amend
Ordinance 1, 1990, to allow additional uses within the
NorthCorp PCD. Mr. Walton stated the applications are to
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allow a medical use and a church use. Mr. Walton stated
attached to the staff report were the Petitioners'
justifications that were submitted with the original
applications. Mr. Walton stated the two uses are included
in the Ordinance, as well as 3 clean -up items, clarifying
the intent of Condition 6, 21, and 24b.
Nick Lioce, agent for CBT, addressed the City Council
stating in 1. of Section 1., Petitioner had a problem with
the language stating no more than 10% of retail use is
allowed on a particular lot within the PCD.
The Council directed Mr. Lioce, Attorney Brant and Mr.
Walton to work on amending the language for this item.
There was a consensus of the Council and Petitioner that the
language contained in 2. and 3. of Section 1., were
acceptable.
The City Council directed Mr. Skokowski and Attorney Brant
to define "medical uses (all disciplines) ".
The Mayor requested "ct- scan" be spelled out.
In response to Mayor Martino, Councilwoman Monroe stated the
Council has heard her comments before.
In response to Mayor Martino, Vice Mayor Russo stated if
this is to be a medical office building, then call it a
medical office building. Vice Mayor Russo stated as far as
the uses are concerned, this seemed to be more of a
surgicenter, rather than a medical office building. Vice
Mayor Russo stated his intent was to not have out - patient
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services. Vice Mayor Russo requested deleting clinics.
In response to Councilman Jablin, Mr. Skokowski stated
convalescent homes are excluded and there would be no
overnight stays.
Vice Mayor Russo stated he did not want this to become a
testing center.
Councilwoman Monroe stated her comments all along have been
that she did not want to see any medical use on this site.
Vice Mayor Russo requested Mr. Skokowski provide a list of
approved office space available in the City.
In reference to churches or places of worship uses,
Councilwoman Monroe stated her comments are the same as
before, however, her negative feelings are not quite as
strong with churches.
In reference to Councilwoman Monroe, Attorney Brant stated
schools and day care centers will not be permitted.
In reference to 5. of Section 1., Councilwoman Monroe
requested the City Forester, Mark Hendrickson, comment on
the quantity of trees that fall between calipers of 4" to 8"
which would not be protected.
There was a consensus of the City Council and the Petitioner
that 28. and 29. under 6. of Section 1., were acceptable as
written.
Per a consensus of the City Council, staff was directed to
schedule and advertise Ordinance 24, 1992 for Public Hearing
for the City Council Regular Meeting of 11/5/92.
CITY COUNCIL REGULAR MEETING, 10/15/92
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M/I HOMES Mr. Walton stated enclosed in the Council's package was an
environmental assessment and preservation proposal submitted
by M/I Homes for a 56+ acre parcel located along Central
Boulevard, immediately west of the elementary school and
Shady Lakes. Mr. Walton stated the Petitioner has been
working with the City Environmental Consultant, ,Tim Schnell,
on preservation areas. Mr. Walton stated attached to the
staff report was Mr. Schnell's analysis and recommendation.
Mr. Walton stated staff concurred that while a large,
contiguous tract of preserve area is most desirable, the
preservation of species on -site warrants consideration and
plays a major factor in the location of the proposed
preserves. Mr. Walton stated staff recommended approval of
the environmentally sensitive lands determination and
preservation areas as Petitioner proposed.
Nick Lioce, agent for Petitioner, addressed the City Council
stating they were not here for site plan approval. Mr.
Lioce stated if the proposed preservation areas met with
Council's approval, they would start the application process
with the Planning and Zoning Department.
Mr. Lioce and Mr. Schnelle briefly discussed the proposed
environmental and preservation areas.
In response to Mayor Martino, Mr. Schnelle stated the
Petitioner met the 25; set aside, in addition to maintaining
a couple of acres on site. Mr. Schnelle stated initially
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they wanted to see a contiguous preserve area along the
ADJOURNMENT
fenced prrserve for the elementary school, however, they
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found species on site (gopher tortise) that was better left
where they were. Mr. Schnelle stated they will remove all
Melalucas and the Brazilian Pepper from the site.
Councilwoman Monore, made a motion, seconded by Vice Mayor
Russo to approve recommendation of staff regarding the
presentation of M/I Homes re: 25% set aside. The motion was
unanimously approved by the City Council.
There being no further business to discuss, the meeting was
adjourned at 1:40 A.M.
APPROVAL
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MAYOR MARTINO
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COUNCILWOMAN MONROE
COUNCILMAN JABLIN
TO Legislative Record
FROM Mike Martino, Mayor
DATE October 15, 1992
RE : Comprehensive Land Use Plan Amendment 1 91 -2
The next item on our agenda is the first reading of Ordinance 23,
1992, which speaks to the adoption of our comprehensive land use
plan amendment 191 -2, dealing with recently annexed land area
northeast of the intersection of PGA Boulevard and Beeline Highway,
also known as the university site.
I would appreciate the indulgence of my fellow city council
members, as I have some opening remarks I would like to make on
this agenda item. As an aside, I have written my comments for the
record because I feel it is most important to state my position
precisely and have them recorded in the City legislative record.
To begin, I would first like to recall some recent historical
perspective regarding this comprehensive land use plan amendment.
This comprehensive land use plan amendment emerged from discussions
between the John D. & Catherine T. MacArthur Foundation and Florida
Atlantic University regarding an available and suitable site for
a long overdue and badly needed Northern Palm Beach County campus
�- location for FAU. Florida Atlantic University's President, Mr.
John Cantanese, acting on behalf of the Florida State University
System, had agreed with the MacArthur Foundation that this site was
the best available location for a campus in northern Palm Beach
County. It should be noted that the City of Palm Beach Gardens was
not involved in any way, regarding the campus sf`fie- location
iscusslons a weep AU and the MacArthur Foundation.
In order to comprehensively plan for the long -term use and needs
of the FAU campus and surrounding adjacent lands, our City Council
voted 4 to 1 to move forward in good faith with the transmittal of
comprehensive land use plan amendment #91 -2. We felt it was a
responsible action for our City to take and also would help foster
the partnership that FAU and the MacArthur Foundation had developed
on this important and exciting educational enhancement for our city
residents, as well as, all the people living in northern Palm Beach
County and Southern Martin County.
We have held numerous public meetings and met many times with
various governmental neighbors and regulating agencies, much beyond
statute requirements. These meetings led to substantial
'modifications to amendment 191 -2. But at no time did we fail to
listen, learn, and try to incorporate common sense suggestions from
the public, etc., into our amendment. I will avoid trying to
describe the litany of events that have transpired since our June,
1991, transmittal of amendment 191 -2 to DCA. I would, however,
highlight the seven following important facts that have led me to
the conclusion that this comprehensive land use plan amendment
._ submittal should be withdrawn at our regular meeting tonight, and,
perhaps, our City should retransmit a more appropriate amendment
to DCA at some future time.
*First, the State University Board of Regents not only took
control of the process that will select a Northern Palm Beach
County campus site for FAU, they also have significantly changed
and delayed their timetable. This allows us, as the "host city ",
additional flexibility in our planning process and timetables.
*Second, because we have taken the time to study many
technical issues that the Florida Department of Community Affairs
asked us to review, we technically have exceeded the deadline for
adoption of this land use amendment. A withdrawal, and subsequent
retransmition of an amendment, would avoid any legal questions
arising in the future.
*Third, the county government has expressed concern that this
pending land use amendment has created a potential obstacle to
their acquisition of certain environmentally sensitive lands in
this area. A withdrawal will remove that concern and, perhaps,
lead to a quicker and successful acquisition of these
environmentally sensitive lands.
*Fourth, issues and concerns regarding the CLUP amendment for
these lands have been raised by our constituents, by other local
governments, by various regulating agencies and by environmental
activists, that deserve thoughtful, considerate, and precise
answers,
*Fifth, we have a new member of City Council, Mr. Eric Jablin,
who deserves time to familiarize himself with all the issues and
details of this amendment before being asked to render a decision,
yes or no. In addition, we now have a vacant seat on the City
Council that was not anticipated. We may wish to allow this vacant
seat to be filled before we move forward with finality on a final
comprehensive land use change for this extremely important and
environmentally sensitive area of our City.
*Sixth, this has been a rather rough year for relations
between City governments and Palm Beach County government. It is
clearly time for all our local governments to find mutually
beneficial ways to deal with important issues; ways that ensure
that the long -term mutual interests of our shared constituencies
remain foremost in our decision making processes.
*The seventh, and possibly most significant point, is that
this amendment may be producing unnecessary and undesirable
divisions in our fine and beautiful city. It is my observation,
as the Mayor of Palm Beach Gardens, that we may need a new and more
constructive process to reach our goals and objectives regarding
this comprehensive plan amendment.
I believe this new process should be convened
Beach Gardens. I would suggest, perhaps, a
University Campus Advisory Task Force might be
City Council.
by the City of Palm
Palm Beach Gardens
established by our
It is not my intention to hold a discussion at this meeting on the
merits, or lack of merits, of this particular suggestion. I offer
this suggestion simply to illustrate the type of new, and more
open, process that I think our citizens may want and deserve in
dealing with this most important and critical issue.
I'm sure we can agree that we need to begin a sincere effort to
bring our City, the County, and all northern Palm Beach County
communities together on a location for a university site to satisfy
a very real educational need. I'm sure we can agree that we must
remove politics, personalties and special interests of any farm
from our agenda; we need to heal any wounds, check our egos and
attitudes at the door and move forward together. I'm sure we can
agree that we need to work together with all local governments to
continue to craft a special quality of life for all our citizens.
I hope you will agree with me that we should withdraw this
amendment from further consideration at this time.
I sincerely appreciate your time and attention in listening to my
remarks. And I would be pleased to entertain a motion to advise
DCA of our withdrawal of Palm Beach Gardens's comprehensive land
use plan amendment 1 91 -2 via the proper legal and statutory
notification document.
EXCERPT FROM
CITY COUNCIL REGULAR MEETING
OCTOBER 15, 1992
RE: EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICE
City Manager
John Orr: Okay, now that we've got everybody here. On
September 26, 1992, (following) the collapse of
Inter City, we put into place at that time the
contingency plan that Palm Beach County EMS had
worked out. In the County's, in the City's two
stations we had up until that time been using Inter
City on a contract. North County, which is
affiliated with Jupiter Hospital, was put into place
and under the same circumstances and under the same
contractual arrangements the date that we had with
Inter City. We have received, and I think I gave
you copies of all of them, I hope I have all, number
of proposals from various organizations to carry on
the emergency medical service. We have two that I
had recommended to the Council, one being North
County, the other being Palm Beach County. The
North County, which is currently serving our two
stations under the same arrangement that we had with
Inter City, has submitted a proposal to continue the
service under the same agreement that we had with
Inter City through September of 1993. We have also
received a proposal which we'll get into in a little
bit more depth, from Palm Beach County Fire Rescue
which would be a two -year agreement in which Palm
Beach County would furnish the Fire Rescue for Palm
Beach Gardens; and then in the second year of the
proposal our, the Cities would then supplement
personnel into the system which we could make it any
amount we wanted because it would make, that would
basically give us an opportunity to see what we
needed, the distribution of calls, the number of
calls, and how they were distributed. And then we
could determine if we needed to add six or nine
people to the system. The Chief, our Chief, had
recommended that we hire, that we add nine people
to the system; and I think this is something that
could be debated if we decided to go this route.
We also received, tonight I think, another copy from
Life Fleet which is, they gave us two options,
Option A and Option B; and tonight in your package
you got another proposal which they're calling zero
base proposal and basically what their zero base
proposal outlines is that they would provide the
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same service that we currently have at the two
stations, the same personnel, three people per unit,
and that the City would be responsible for any
outstanding debts that they could not collect up to
a maximum of $200,000. So what they are saying is
you start out with zero and if they collected a 100
per cent, it would cost us nothing. If they didn't,
whatever amount they didn't collect up to $200,000,
that would be the cost of operating the system.
That's the different concept than we received
before.
Councilwoman
Monroe: Is that, do you not mean $250,000? The paper I have
here says $250,000, or am I reading, is there more
than one thing?
City Manager
John Orr: They gave us two different proposals. I think it's
on the last page. You should have gotten that
tonight.
Councilwoman
Monroe: Oh, there it is...
Mayor Martino: That's the one we got tonight. The blue sheets are
what we got tonight.
City Manager
John Orr: Now, what we have in place at present time, as I
mentioned, is the North County Rescue, and North
County is in the process of being merged or I guess
you would say with the, or taken over by Jupiter
Hospital and then it would be Jupiter Hospital and
North County; and I don't, what would it be called
then?
? It would be North County.
City Manager
John Orr: North County? Okay, North County, an affiliate of
Jupiter Hospital. So they are currently handling
our emergency medical rescue in both stations, that
would be Station 2 and Station 4. They have the
same complement of personnel that we had with Inter
City, and our Fire Department is responding with
the, from both stations, with the North County. The
other scenario that I mentioned with Palm Beach
County would provide a response from a emergency
medical response team from Station 16 which is on,
right by Cabana Colony, would also put a unit in
Station 4. They would then back up those systems
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with Station 15, I believe which is in Juno, and a
station south of here for, and I'm not sure of the
number, 22? And that would then back up those
systems when, if they got into a bind. The County,
we asked them to give it to us in a system that they
would do the ALS, both the transport for ALS and
BLS, and this would require confirmation from the
County commission and also an interlocal agreement.
It would also provide or allow the City to handle
all the fire control within the City of Palm Beach
Gardens, and the County would handle all the EMS
commands within the City of Palm Beach Gardens.
Anything outside the City then would be handled by
the County. However, the closest unit would then
respond to any emergency that we had be it inside
the City or outside the City. It would also provide
in the, this total process, it would allow the City
to support Palm Beach County Fire Rescue within the
pockets that we have in the City currently. It also
would allow County Fire Rescue to also support us
outside the City or in some of the fringe areas that
we have without building additional stations at this
point in time, and it's something that I think we
should consider. Also I think we should consider
what we have presently working for us and that is
North County. They have moved in and all the
information I can gather from both Chiefs, the Chief
of North County and also our Fire Chief, that they
are working in a cooperative spirit; and the job is
being accomplished. So I think that one advantage
we have, I'll give you two different scenarios.
With one we already have something in place and
working which is North County. We have an
opportunity if we want to go with Palm Beach County
to have a prototype of what I think we're going to
have in the future and that is a cooperative effort
to provide services that may cross various
boundaries, be it municipalities and counties or
whatever. But I think this would allow us to
integrate our personnel into the emergency medical
service without a drastic impact on the taxpayers
and yet would provide good service and a quality
service, and I think it's something that, like I
said, would may be a wave of the future and would
tend to meet concurrency requirements that we have
or are going to have; and I think this is a big
concern of not only us but Palm Beach County and
other entities throughout, other municipalities
throughout the County.
So with that I'll answer any questions I can.
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Mayor Martino: Linda, comments?
Councilwoman
Monroe: Yes, my comment is I agree with one thing you said.
We've got something in place right now, and the fact
we're in the middle of fiscal year, I think barring
anything else I hear tonight, I would prefer to
continue with that and then do as much in depth
study and workshop amongst those of us up here to
determine what we want to do for next year. And I
don't mean wait until budget time. I mean begin
right now. Chief Brice, you and I smiled an awfully
about when are we going to get together and work
together, and I'm going to be putting my heels in
until it's proven otherwise that that's the
direction to go. I think we ought to be fixing one
problem and that's the pocket problem. I know
that's a difficult issue for the provision of
services, particularly for Palm Beach County as
municipalities, you know, surround, in the past,
have surrounded certain pocket areas. But I think
that's the wrong way to fix the problem. I think
we ought to be fixing the problem by finding ways
and encouraging people to annex in these smaller
areas. This shouldn't be, we shouldn't look for a
more cumbersome way to do it. I would also want to
look very closely at the track record financially
of the County over, let's say the last 10 years, in
terms of what the millage rate has been for fire
protection, because that's all I can look is the
combination fire and rescue and compare that with
what we've done here in the City. You've gotten
some bad press just like we've gotten bad press
whether it's warranted or not. We hear various
communities in the north county area talk about some
alternatives. They say the rates have gotten too
high. I don't that to be a fact, but sitting here
tonight I don't feel comfortable making a decision
to make any other decision other than to continue
in the direction we've been going in recent weeks.
Mayor Martino: Thank you, Linda. Mr. Jablin?
Councilman
Eric Jablin: Well, I tell you, Linda, you know how I feel about
emergency medical services. I'm very concerned
about putting it in the hands of a private company
versus putting it in the hands of a municipality or
a government agency. I'd like to see a task force
that is empowered to give the Council all of the
alternatives that are out there, and I am sure there
are other alternatives. One of the alternatives is
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bringing it inhouse, and I know it's expensive, and
know there has been criticism of that, but there
hasn't been much airing of it; and I personally
think that there are an awfully lot of people in
Palm Beach Gardens who have expertise that we can
draw upon for nothing who are public spirited
citizens and who would serve on such a Council. Now
it's going to take time to get all of this
information together, and while that information is
being gathered we still have to deliver emergency
medical services to the good people of Palm Beach
Gardens. So I would like to consider doing
something with Palm Beach County Fire Rescue for a
period of time because I know I've spoken to John
about this and he seems to be leaning in that
direction. I would like to see a government agency
handling our emergency medical service rather than
a private company, and if we could work out some
kind of a relationship with Chief Brice and we could
lower that amount of time, that contract for maybe
two years to at least serving out the term of Inter
City's contract which is the way I think, John, you
have it worked out with ( ?) County, is that correct?
City Manager
John Orr Right.
Councilman
Eric Jablin: If they would do that, that's the direction I would
like to see it going and put in place some kind of
task force of people from all walks of life,
doctors. We haven't had a doctor look at this, and
I know doctors out there who have expertise in
emergency medical ( ?) systems.
Mayor Martino: Joe?
Vice Mayor
Russo: Excuse me, sir, you said we should stay with North
County.
Councilman
Eric Jablin: No, I'm suggesting we go with Palm Beach County.
Vice Mayor
Russo: Linda, I know where you're coming, you know, you're
basically coming from the system that if it ain't
broke, don't fix it.
Councilwoman
Monroe: On a temporary basis.
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Vice Mayor
Russo:
Councilman
Eric Jablin:
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Yeah, on a temporary basis, but I think it is broke,
and I think these good people here from North County
have spent time in the last couple of weeks covering
us, and I am very grateful to them doing that. On
the other side of it is if they're going to continue
to do our medical EMS service, I think that, you
know, they're going to have to gear up and do all
these different things, and that's not really the
direction we want to go in, you know what I mean.
I understand what you're saying, let's just follow
it out and get through the year and so forth. I
would just like to get a stronger direction on which
way we're going to go. I guess I feel with the
County here is it has a lot of other assets other
than just covering our emergency medical service.
You know it's covering us up in areas where I think
that we're a little weak as far as getting our
equipment there and so forth like up in Frenchman's
Creek, and I am very concerned about, I mean they
have a station right up there; and I'm very
concerned with the amount of time it takes us to go
from here and get into Frenchman's Creek because
they've got to go all the way over Donald Ross and
so forth and that provides somewhat coverage on that
link. It seems that if we'll'go in this direction
it's intergovernmental cooperation that should we
in the future to saving tax dollars for residents
as opposed to double covering everything like that.
I think John says that's probably the wave of the
future. Excuse me, and I think that that's probably
the way we should try and go if it works. I mean
I don't know, I just got this proposal last night,
and I read through it. I got home late from a
meeting last night and I was trying to read it and
understand it and so forth. But I think it has a
lot of good points to it and that it's covering us
in areas where I think we're weak, and I think we
can pick that up with that. So I wouldn't have a
problem going in this direction, and I don't know
that this might not be the direction we want to take
for the future as far as the future route. I don't
know about bringing it in house. I think we are
technically. I think if we do this we are basically
bringing it somewhat in house, you know, and the
County...
This would be a hybrid system I suppose, but there
are those who I think would like to take a look at
that and I for one would like to investigate it
further. I'm not saying we should do it. I'm only
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saying we should investigate it and get all of our
options before we make a decision that's going to
be cast in stone. That's why I don't like the idea
of going into a two -year contract with County Fire
Rescue right off the bat.
Vice Mayor
Russo: Well, I think though by doing this we're going to
see a lot of bringing it in house. You know what
I mean? We're almost bringing it in house by doing
it this way, and we're going to experience a lot of
things that we wouldn't experience by having a
private company, I think, do it.
Councilman
Eric Jablin:
Well I agree with you. I think that's a better way
to go. I know some of the firemen called me
tonight. They were concerned about it, they had
just heard about it just like I have just heard
about it. You know, we got this last night and I
went to the same meeting you did, and I read it
quickly and I know you just got it, John, so it's
not that you didn't send it to us. It came in late.
And so I haven't had a chance, although it's very
well laid out, it's not really fleshed out, and it
will be nice if we could get the firemen's impact
on this because they seem to be concerned about it;
and they're going to be impacted in their fire
delivery, in their service too because some of this
has to do with not just EMS service but some fire
fighting. Isn't that true? Isn't there some fire
fighting? And that means they will be working with
our men on that level, and I think it is only common
courtesy to get the firemen involved in this rather
than just passing this tonight, throwing the ball
one way. But I would like to go in the direction
of County rescue and so consequently I would like
to make some kind of a, give you direction to talk
further with them and maybe do this at the next
Council meeting.
City Manager
John Orr:
Mr. Mayor, can I bring up a couple of things I think
may, so that we are not totally misunderstood since
you didn't have enough (time) to read this. North
County...
Mayor Martino: I read it.
City Manager
John Orr: I understand, okay. North County is willing to make
the expenditures necessary to do whatever needs to
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be done because they have other options coming up
at the end of the year, and they can stay with us
or go someplace else because they have given that
assurance. Also, you talk about, Mr. Jablin, about
the fire fighting. What we're doing is we have a
lot of equipment, there's a number of pieces of
equipment that will be interchanged and can be used
and swapped and right now if we needed it, it's not
available to the City, and we also have some
equipment that wouldn't be available to the County
because we don't have any interlocal agreement
working at this point in time. Yes, this would
involve fire fighting and also it would enhance the
fire fighting capabilities, I think, allow our fire
fighters who get involved in some additional things.
Also would add an additional option for covering
some things that probably we haven't covered in the
past or areas that I know we haven't covered, the
pockets. Also the training, the interfacing with
various agencies that have different equipment would
provide us with an additional training tool that we
would have to pay for if we did it without having
that available. So there are some good points in
both of them. I think...
Councilman
Jablin: You're right, there are. But have you talked to the
Chief about this. How does our Chief Arrants feel
about this? Has he talked to his men?
City Manager
Orr: I talked to the Chief about both plans. I don't
want to speak for the Chief, but I asked him how he
felt about - -he was in on the negotiations for the
County; and also I asked him about how they were
doing with North County, and I think I can speak for
him on that. Is the Chief here?
? Yes.
City Manager
Orr: That you've had no problem with North County.
Chief Arrants: The last couple of weeks have been almost a pleasure
working with them.
City Manager
Orr: That, I think, is as much as you could ask for in
that particular case, and then he was in on the
process, he and Ed, in negotiating and talking to
the County to get them to put together this plan
that we have presented here. It was our
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Fire Chief
Herman Brice:
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recommendation and our suggestion to the County, and
one of the things that we really looked at was the
proposal that's being, I think there's an ordinance
that's being proposed by the County now to do some
transportation, allow Palm Beach County Fire Rescue
to do transportation because they don't receive a
lot of the dollars, especially for the BLS
transportation. What we would have here in this
particular proposal would be both phases of the
transportation process, ALS and BLS, which in turn
would provide some additional dollars. That's why
we keep the dollars as low as we've got them for the
two -year period. Now, I don't know if they would
consider the one year or not. I'm talking about
Palm Beach County. That would be up to the
Chief... through his process.
Mr. Mayor, Councilmembers, I'm Chief Herman Brice,
Palm Beach County Fire Rescue. Yes, we would be
happy I think to explore any cooperative effort that
the Gardens was interested in. I think that what
we've been talking about can be a model for what
this County needs to do in terms of sharing
resources between cities and counties. We have a
station that's really almost in your city. You have
stations that are closer to our response area and
our county that could assist us and really help us
in terms of our fire protection. It's a chance for
us to share our resources, your fire department and
Palm Beach County Fire Rescue, and enhance fire
protection for both the County residents and the
Gardens and also give your people a chance to be
involved in developing their ( ?), thus placing a
medic unit at your station and then utilizing dual
responses between the Gardens and the County in
terms of responding to ALS emergency medical calls.
We would be working together in the ALS business and
the EMS business and would be utilizing personnel
from the Gardens as well as from the County to do
the treatment on the scene and do the transport.
The fact that you, I understand, have a new aerial
coming in; we have a special operations unit right
over here at 22 which is a very specialized unit
that would be able to assist you should there be a
hazardous material incident in your city. And I
think it's a golden opportunity on both sides to
find ways to work together at this point in time
because I think all of us are faced with taxpayers
and concerned citizens about cost, and if we could
just find a way to cooperate together between
governments, I think that's a major step forward in
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this County; and it could be a model for the entire
north end of the County, and I think that Jupiter
and Juno and even Tequesta would be looking at this
possibility because it offers a new fresh look on
how to provide basic services, particular fire
rescue.
Mayor Martino: Thank you, Chief. Let me kind of get into the fray
here. It's ten 'tit ten and we still have most of
the agenda to go through, and this is certainly a
very immediate problem that the City faces.
Thankfully, it appears to me and I think the Chief
has pointed out we are fortunate to have the North
County folks here, and from what I understand are
doing a marvelous job, very professional; and I want
to compliment you and thank you for on behalf of the
residents for being here. Sitting here and be the
chairman of this group, or the Mayor of this group,
I've got to try to sort all of these little nuances
out that I've heard now. To begin with, I just want
to make a small statement concerning our Fire Chief,
Mr. Ed Arrants, who recently was at a Municipal
League meeting; and Ed, on behalf of the Fire Chiefs
Association, in my opinion, began a very important
process much along the lines that Chief Brice just
outlined - -the need for intergovernmental cooperation
and the need for recognizing where fire stations are
and not building one across the street, and the need
for knowing what equipment Chief Brice has and what
equipment Chief Arrants has. I'm very proud of Ed
Arrants. He always does a good job, and he's
usually on the cutting edge of things like this, so
this, as John indicated, is something that the
future probably will see.
I remember also, Chief, I was at your meeting at
your invitation; and I believe the message that I
left was you're going to have to do more with less,
and this is an indication of again I think the fire
professionals responding to what the 90's are going
to need. Beyond that I'd also like to say that I
know in our own department that there are a lot of
fine young men who are very interested in getting
into this type of activity and increasing their
professional life in this direction. Now that we
have an opportunity to flush that out if you will
and see if there isn't something there that we may
have missed. I'd like to have that opportunity to
explore that as well as the other things that are
on the table. I think Linda Monroe's suggestion at
the moment probably is the best. I think if we
could arrange something with the North County folks
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to pick up the contract until September - -I think
that's when it runs out, John ? --
City Manager
John Orr: Right.
Mayor Martino: Okay - -pick up the contract until September and
continue the fine way they're responding to our
needs in the City of Palm Beach Gardens, it would
then give us an opportunity to really get into an
in depth study of some of the very fine things that
we're listening to and starting to discuss tonight,
where there are some very real consequences on a lot
of other areas that we might not be able to notice
tonight because of the lack of time to digest all
of this. I'd like to make the suggestion and if we
could perhaps get a consensus to do that and then
immediately pledge, because as you said, Linda,
it'll be September before we know it, get into the
business of evaluating what would be best for the
future of Palm Beach Gardens and emergency medical
services.
Councilwoman
Monroe: Mr. Chairman, in keeping with what Mr. Jablin said,
I think it would not be - -even if I had a tendency
to lean in the other direction, in the direction
you're suggesting of going with the County's
proposal, I certainly wouldn't want to do that
tonight. As you pointed out, I would like to have
some input from the Department. I'd like to have
as much information as I can get my hands on on that
because I think we're dealing with a potentially
very emotional issue here as well as the well -being
of the residents of Palm Beach Gardens and northern
Palm Beach County. And that being the case, you
know, we've had, we've got this company that's come
in to help us out; and I don't really think it's
quite fair to have them hanging around - -Well, we may
keep you another week and another week. They jumped
in here and did something for us on the spur of the
moment in a crisis situation, and in the amount of
time it's going to take to decide whether we want
this to occur, I don't like just having them
dangling around a little bit longer and a little bit
longer. They've agreed that they, according to Mr.
Orr, that this isn't going to cause them a problem
in terms of their equipment, and if we continue with
this, I agree with your thoughts of getting as much
input. I like other people to thrash it out where
I don't have to do every bit of it. Maybe I'm a
little bit lazy, but dig through, sort out all the
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pieces and help us then with the best alternatives
with the most information and that will take a
while. We need to do that almost immediately in
order to point our City Manager in the direction
that we want them to go.
Councilman
Jablin: Well, are you suggesting to keep North County for
a full year?
Councilwoman
Monroe: It won't be, well, I say it'll be...
Councilman
Jablin: It almost will be a full
I mean I'm not saying tr
scope of things, but I
can't do the same thing
North County, pardon me,
Rescue.
year. That's a long time.
gat it's a long time in the
can't understand why you
for North County - -not the
for Palm Beach County Fire
Councilwoman
Monroe: But we don't have, you said you wanted the input of
our own folks here that work for the City.
Councilman
Jablin: Yes, you're right. We can do that at the same time,
but if we're going in the direction of County...
Councilwoman
Monroe: Are we?
Councilman
Jablin: Well, I don't know. I've been saying that and I
thought that's what Mr. Russo was saying and the
Mayor. He was talking about interlocal cooperation
between the County and the City, and this is the
direction of the future.
Councilwoman
Monroe: We don't know that we ... my understanding and the
Mayor may be able to shed more light on it since he
was at this meeting. Right now we have an agreement
with the Police Departments and Fire Departments,
am I correct, Mr. Chairman? I mean Mr. City
Manager, interlocal amongst the cities where if we
have a crisis other cities will come in and help us
whether it's police or fire. Chief Arrants, is that
correct right now?
City Manager
Orr: That's a mutual aid agreement.
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Councilwoman
Monroe: That's what I meant. Okay, and we're not charging
each other for that, am I correct?
? That's correct.
Councilwoman
Monroe: That's correct. If we have a crisis here, they come
help us. Conversely, if they have a crisis, we go
help them. You know, I've heard you talk about the
possibility of doing it in house ourselves not
somebody else. That's still another alternative.
Councilman
Jablin: That's an alternative, but I'm not suggesting we do
that. That's a very big step, and I don't think
that should be taken in a month or two or three
months. It takes a long time to decide whether you
want to do that. We're talking about a lot of
money. But the proposals that were brought to us
tonight by the City Manager to work out an interim
situation, if you will, gives us the ability to
choose between either County or North County, okay?
A private company or a government agency, and I told
you as I said in the outset that I'm more
comfortable going with the County at this point
using them as an interim service, if you will, if
they are agreed, if they agree to do that. I don't
know if they would, but if they agreed to do that
then I want to compliment the people at North
County. I really do. They've done a marvelous job,
but if what I'm hearing from Joe, now I don't know,
maybe we're split on this, but I particularly would
like to see the County Fire Rescue service us, at
least for the time being.
Vice Mayor
Russo: What do you mean, on an interim basis? I mean...
Councilman
Jablin: Well, for at least a year, for a year. I'm talking
the same relationship that we would have with North
County, I'm suggesting we have with Palm Beach
County Fire Rescue.
Vice Mayor
Russo: Well, I guess we're split then.
Mayor Martino: The reason why I'm maintaining, if you will, a
position that tends to lean towards the North County
group, it in no way infers any deleterious thinking
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as Chief Brice knows regarding his crew. What my
concern is the fact that if we were to bring the
County Fire Rescue group on board in the fashion
we're looking at, it is a different and more of a
major step than I perhaps would like to take at the
moment. Because I do truly want to evaluate the
emergency medical services for the future of Palm
Beach Gardens, and I truly want to take a look at
what types of talent we have in house. I haven't
had that opportunity to do that yet thoroughly. I
would like to measure all of the proposals that are
on the table, and I would like to do it in a
thoughtful and professional way. And if the North
County folks are willing to serve out the contract,
we would basically have the same type of services
that would incur policy wise, rightly or wrongly,
had Inter City still be in existence today. That's
why I'm trying to maintain this ( ?) approach, if you
will. Moving to the Palm Beach County Fire Rescue
is a major step in my opinion. It's a sharing, if
you will, of responsibilities not only in the ALS
and BLS areas but also the way this contract is
worded in the other areas of the fire service, and
I haven't seen anything here yet that raises the
comfort level for me to that degree. I'm not saying
that I couldn't get there because that happens to
be some of my tendencies generally. But for the
moment, I think the prudent step for the City of
Palm Beach Gardens and the best step is to talk to
the North County folks and see if we can't maintain
them here for the moment. If it's six months or if
it's a year, I don't care to debate the time limit
or the term limit, and I do make a commitment to do
the things that I just said.
Vice Mayor
Russo:
Mr. Mayor, I would, you know we
do have a long
agenda...
Mayor Martino:
That's right.
Vice Mayor
Russo:
And I know it may not be fair to
these people to
have them do it another two weeks,
but I don't think
we're going to reach a decision
here because I
don't... willing to make the decision here this
evening because I think we've seen
an excellent plan
that was proposed by Palm Beach County that I might
be swayed off of if I believe that
it's not as good
as what I'm looking at now. And
I'm not going to
do that here this evening and we've
been talking
about it as you well know for
the past twenty
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minutes or half hour, and I think if we talk about
it another half we're going to basically at the same
point. I mean I'd really like to get more
comfortable. I have not had the opportunity to
speak to our Chief, and I would not want to put him
on the spot here this evening. I had a brief
conversation with Mr. Orr on this before, and he
really hasn't given me his recommendation, and I
would just like to hear what people have to say
before I make a decision. At this point, I'm
leaning the one way and I would just like to wait
a little bit and let's do it in two weeks. I know
it may not be fair but I don't want to... I'd rather,
if I'm going to go to Palm Beach County, I'd rather
know that was the way I was going to go; and if I
was going to go with North County, I'd rather, you
know, I mean I want to make a f irm commitment as
opposed to a half and half one.
Councilman
Jablin: I agree with you, Joe, I too would like to table
this for another couple of weeks so we can examine
it a little further and get more in agreement with
where we're going.
Mayor Martino: Make a motion for three weeks.
City Manager
Orr: Before you make a motion, can I make a
recommendation also? We need the emergency medical
service for the time being. I think North County,
if they would be willing to continue to serve under
the existing contract so that they get paid for it,
they're not going to do it for nothing, then we
would have an opportunity to review not only this
contract but the others that have been presented,
the zero base concept, whatever.
Councilman
Jablin: I'll go along with that if they will.
Peter Allen: My name is Peter Allen and I'm a former resident of
Palm Beach Gardens and now your neighbor in Jupiter.
I'm the General Manager of North County Ambulance,
and just speaking for North County, we'd be happy
to stay here for as long as you would like us to
stay until you decide what you want to do, and three
weeks will be fine. I'd like you all to have a
chance to look at all the facts and make a wise
informed decision.
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Mayor Martino: Thank you, Peter, we appreciate it. So now we
have... if somebody can make a motion, I can't do it.
Councilwoman
Monroe: Which motion ... are we looking for something what
John just said?
Mayor Martino: ...Entertain a motion that we state for the record
that we will utilize the North County group for the
following three weeks.
Councilwoman
Monroe: Right. Could I make the motion that we're
authorizing the City Manager to continue to
authorize, we're authorizing North County to provide
medical service, emergency medical service, but
rather than put three weeks what if we lost a quorum
for some reason just until that motion is
overturned?
Mayor Martino: Fine with me.
Councilwoman
Monroe: Until there is another motion to go in another ...to
change providers.
vice Mayor
Russo: I'll second that.
Mayor Martino: Okay, we have a motion made and seconded. Is it
clear? Everybody, any discussion? All in favor,
signify by saying aye.
All:
Aye.
Mayor Martino: All opposed? (No response) Okay, thank you. Thank
you, Chief and thank you, Chief.
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Excerpt from City Council Regular Meeting
October 15, 1992
Re: Jog Road
Councilwoman Monroe: Mr. Chairman, I can't second it because
I don't believe that really does anything
more than our resolution has already done.
We have not waved enough in front of them,
given them enough. We're really simply
saying "take it off" which we've said.
If we want to make any dent in their
perception of what we want, we're going
to have to give them something a little
more concrete. Here are some things that
we will look toward. (applause) I didn't
think it was that monumental. Well, I
just think that they need to see a little
bit more. I've already said it. I've
said I believe we need to be able, and I
suggested we do it next week but we've
ended spending that much time tonight.
I think we need to say that, we need to
tell them when, we're going to in the next
six months, we're going to look at
development patterns in the City, how they
have historically built out. We're going
to look at what DCA has said to us because
what you're saying, Mike, I know the
implication of what you're saying, but I'm
not sure that they cast in stone exactly
where and how much in terms of the
densities. I don't know that they
wouldn't have approved something less as
long as we dealt with certain issues like
the mass transit which...
Mayor Martino: Linda, let me tell you the way to do it
right now, and we can save all of the
conversation. We have a situation where
we grant developers a bonus of two units
per acre. Let's entertain, and I'm
willing to do that; I've got a developer
looking at me now, and I've got another
one over there and there' s a bunch of them
out there. I'm willing to entertain now
tonight making a commitment to remove that
bonus density from our Comp Plan. That's
my carrot.
Councilwoman Monroe: I have a problem with that because that's
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one of the things that has been a way of
negotiating ..................
What I would suggest was that within the
next six months.. give them a time period,
whether it's six months, eight months,
whatever that we would review our
historical development patterns and
density, we would look at the carrying
capacity of the roads, the number of acres
that are not yet committed per a
development order, attempt to come as
close to a match as we can. I don't know
a better word than match right now. And
that we would in the, what's the word I'm
looking for, interest of intergovernmental
coordination, convey this also to the
surrounding municipalities or the
additional northern Palm Beach County
municipalities as well as Palm Beach
County in an interest to get them to make
the move in the same direction.
Vice Mayor Russo: Okay, that's what you want to do? I'll
second that motion. I don't have a
problem with that.
Mayor Martino: Discussion? We're going to try to figure
out the carrying capacity of the road
network at build out. Let me spend a
couple of minutes talking about that road
network. Do we, whose plan are we going
to use, Linda?
Mayor Martino:
Ours.
No, ours is...
Councilwoman Monroe: Right, ours, we only have City roads. We
can only talk about the County's proposed
laneage. For instance, ...maps last night
showing all the six lane roads. I don't
think any of us want to see eight lane
roads in Palm Beach Gardens, and that's
the point I think where the Planning
Directors have a problem with the traffic.
It's what drives what. The traffic folks
say we can make it work. We buy up some
more right of way and we put in an extra
lanes and it'll work. The residents of
Palm Beach Gardens would lynch us
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overnight if we said that's the direction
we were going in. They don't want to see
an Okeechobee Boulevard and Military Trail
type of intersection, and we're awfully
close to that right now.
Mayor Martino: What we're going to do here is suggest
we're going to use the County's
Thoroughfare System at build out. Can we
get a commitment from them that if we go
through this effort and take that step
that they will begin immediately the
reservation procedures for that right of
way which they have not done since they
produced the plan. That's the problem.
That's why I say Jog Road will never come
to be because it's been on the books since
1973. People say it wants to go from A
to B and there are so many links missing
that have not been accomplished that the
road will never be a thoroughfare system.
There's simply no way. I think that's
what we should make Palm Beach County come
to us with. How are you going to get from
here to here with this thoroughfare. It's
got to go through environmentally
sensitive lands as it's planned now. It's
got to go through the water catchment area
as it's planned now. There's links
missing in the south County as it's
planned now. There's no reservations for
this right of way. These are the
questions that need to be pointed out and
asked, and if there's reasonable answers
to them, I'm a reasonable guy. I'll
recognize that then this isn't a fantasy
and it will be a reality. But I'm here
to tell you that since 1973 they have done
diddly squat in reservation preservation
for their thoroughfare system. Jog Road
is a good example. The City of Palm Beach
Gardens has because it was asked to do it
and we responded to the, you know where
I'm coming from, Linda, you work down
there.
Councilwoman Monroe: I know what you're saying but the only
problem I have with what you're saying is
that no government can be expected to buy
all of the needed right of way. In theory
when they first came up with....
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Mayor Martino: I'm not asking them to buy it. I'm
suggesting they lay out a plan for some
type of reservation system so that we know
where these roads are going to go rather
than put lines on a map and then leave it
to some future County Commissioner or
Commissioners to just arbitrarily take out
a link as they just did back in November
with the western section of Donald Ross
Road.
Councilwoman Monroe: I know what you're saying, but I think one
of the problems I've had as it's been
given to me and I can't tell you that I
know this for sure, and.Bill may be able
to help me out on this. My understanding
is there's also legal constraints in terms
of the minute that you put something down
on a map that you've got to pay for it.
And that puts an awful bind on them
because if they had to buy all the right
of way for all six lanes for all roads
right now, then the lynching ropes that
have been waiting for us outside would go
downtown because the tax payers wouldn't
be able to afford. So it's like they're
damned if they do and damned if they don't
because we need the right of way. But at
least if you use the methodology I just
said, we're looking at the worst case
scenario, the maximum number of lanes, if
it doesn't come to pass we've still got
a problem.
Mayor Martino: Eric, do you understand what Linda wants
to do here and are you in agreement with
it? If you are, I'll just write the
letter. All we need is three votes.
Councilwoman Monroe: Do you want me to repeat it? I don't
know, this is the third time, I don't know
if I can say it a third time.
Within the next six months, during the
next six months, we will look at the
historical development patterns in Palm
Beach Gardens and compare that with what
we have on our Land Use map. We will
review what the Department of Community
Affairs, the comments they have made to
us on our Comp Plan to see if lowering any
densities looks like it would be
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acceptable to the Department of Community
Affairs. We will advise other northern
Palm Beach County communities of our
proposed planning actions in hopes that
they in that same spirit will do the same
thing. Did I leave out the one part, I've
said it so many times. As we look at the
roadways, we will look at the roadway
capacity at build out per the County's
Thoroughfare Plan, compare it with our
undeveloped plan, and attempt to make a
match on those numbers recognizing we
can't totally solve the problem because
there are other jurisdictions involved in
this. We will do our part.
Vice Mayor Russo: Motion being seconded.
Mayor Martino: Motion being seconded. Do you have any
questions or discussion?
? No questions, no discussion.
Mayor Martino: Let me just ask one, aren't we going to
make the connection as Vince said, if we
do this and you take Jog Road off?
? I wouldn't do it.
Mayor Martino: Oh, okay.
? You wouldn't? Why not?
? Okay, you want to do it, do it.
Councilwoman Monroe: How about in an effort to...
? I don't know that that's a necessary step
but okay.
Councilwoman Monroe: How about, "In an effort to encourage you
to follow our request of Resolution.....
here's what we offer as our part of the
process."
Mayor Martino: But I'm going to make the connection, you
know, we're going to go ahead and do this
and you're going to go ahead and do this.
Councilwoman Monroe: No, we just say, "In an effort to
encourage you to do this."
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conversation)
Councilwoman Monroe:
Mayor Martino:
All:
Mayor Martino:
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The point is, they're not going to have
any trouble understanding.
Motion made and seconded, all those in
favor signify by saying aye.
Aye.
All those opposed?
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