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HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes Council 062091V Mayor Martino made a presentation to Bob Boniewski, Fire Department, for ten years of service with the City. Mayor Martino presented a plaque to Jack White for his many years of service as a volunteer on the Site Plan & Appearance Review Committee and Planning & zoning Com- mission. RIVIERA BEACH VMDBIR PROJECT Mayor Martino introduced representatives from Riviera Beach, Clara Williams, Mayor; Cynthia Becton, City SCouncil Chairperson; Bruce Guyton, Councilman; and 1 CITY COUNCIL • REGULAR Mursrj.NG CITY OF FALK BEAM GARDENS FUME 20, 1991 The Regular Meeting of the City Council of the City of Palm Beach Gardens, Florida, was called to order by Mayor Martino at 6:00 P.M., in the Assembly Room at the Municipal Complex, 10500 North Military Trail, Palm Beach Gardens, Florida; and opened with the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag. ROLL CAT -r. The roll was called by the Deputy City Clerk, and present were: Mayor Martino, Vice Mayor Aldred, Coun- cilman xiselewski, Councilwoman Monroe, and Councilman Russo. ANNOUNCEMENTS As posted on Agenda and City bulletin boards. 0 PRESENTATIONS Mayor Martino made a presentation to Peter Bergel, Fire Department, for ten years of service with the City. Mayor Martino made a presentation to Bob Boniewski, Fire Department, for ten years of service with the City. Mayor Martino presented a plaque to Jack White for his many years of service as a volunteer on the Site Plan & Appearance Review Committee and Planning & zoning Com- mission. RIVIERA BEACH VMDBIR PROJECT Mayor Martino introduced representatives from Riviera Beach, Clara Williams, Mayor; Cynthia Becton, City SCouncil Chairperson; Bruce Guyton, Councilman; and 1 CITY COUNCIL MEETING 6/20/91 • Davendar Kant, Director of Planning & Zoning. Mayor Martino stated he was pleased with his recent visit to Riviera Beach and welcomes a frank discussion of mutual problems and impacts. Clara Williams, Mayor of Riviera Beach, addressed the City Council, stating Riviera Beach desperately needs quality projects, such as woodbine, to develop a strong economic base and to help in integrating neighborhood schools by attracting white families. Councilman Bruce Guyton addressed the Commission stating revisions have been made to the woodbine Site Plan to minimize impacts on surrounding communities. Mr. Davandar Kant, Director of Riviera Beach Planning & zoning Department, addressed the City Council presenting a Site Plan of the proposed 1,350 -acre project. Mr. Kant reviewed surrounding land uses and pointed out site plan revisions which resulted from discussions with Mayor Martino, including: reduction of densities, height restriction of 35' for single - family on the -north boundary, and locating the highest buildings internal to the site, with the exception of a 7 -story building proposed for the eastern portion of the site. Mr. Kant stated Woodbine will be approximately 200' from Steeplechase, and approximately 175' from Square Lake, Mr. Kant advised the amenities package provides for 5 swimming pools, tennis courts and a network of parks. ® Mr. Kant stated a Traffic Study has been updated and 2 CITY COUNCIL MEETING 6/20/91 • submitted to the City's Planning & Zoning Department, which indicates the major impact from this project will be at the intersection of Blue Heron Blvd. and Military Trail. In reponse to questions by the City Manager, Mr. Kant stated the developer has agreed to fund the 6- laning of Blue Heron Blvd. between I -95 and Military Trail, and the VA Hospital will widen the portion of Blue Heron Blvd. west of Military Trail. Mr. Kant stated after Blue Heron Blvd. is widened, Northlake Blvd. will be at Level of Service D /E. In response to questions by Council members, Mr. Kant advised that 1,374 units are proposed, priced from $70,000 - $150,000, and a Property Owners' Association will maintain all common areas. The VA Hospital will provide a Police Department sub - station to service the western area. A grocery store and medical offices are planned for the 160,000 s.f. commercial portion, and outparcels may include fast food restaurants. Mr. Kant stated the project is vested from the Countywide Traffic Performance Standards. 7-he highest density proposed will be a section of 37 u /p /a, with an overall density of 10 u /p /a. Mayor Martino suggested Riviera Beach consider entering into an interlocal agreement with the County to ensure impact fees generated from this project will be spent in • the north county area. 3 CITY COUNCIL MEETING 6/20/91 Councilwoman Monroe asked if a right turn for northbound traffic on Northlake Blvd. will be provided when the improvements ire made to Military Trail. Mr. Kant responded he will research. The City Council expressed concern with the safety of school children crossing Military Trail and suggested a traffic light be installed at the north entrance to the project. Mr. Kant stated this would not be a problem, if allowed by the County. Mayor Martino stated the Woodbine Site Plan has been improved and that Riviera Beach has been sensitive to the City's concerns. .�i�Y 4, 1991 HOLIDAY Attorney William Brant stated the City Charter and Code would allow for the cancellation of the City Council meeting scheduled for July 4, 1991. Councilman Kiselewski made a motion to cancel the Regular Meeting of the City Council to be held on July 4, 1991, seconded by Councilwoman Monroe. The motion was unanimously approved by the City Council. IT04S BY THE CITY MANALim HOLLY DR. =GNMEirC Upon recommendation of the City Manager, Councilman Kiselewski made a motion to allocate $9,000 from the Road Improvement Fund for improvements to the intersec- tion of Holly Drive and Military Trail to provide for 4 CITY COUNCIL MEETING 6/20/91 0 safe traffic movements through the intersection, second ed by Councilwoman Monroe. The motion was unanimously approved. COUNTY'S TPS pIMJEr_T LIST The City Manager reported that a project list has been compiled, in compliance with the County's Traffic Performance Standards Ordinance 90 -40. The list will be deemed complete after the City Council's deter- mination of status of the wynfield and Starwood projects. PGA BLVD. ROAD IMPROVE4ENTS The City Manager stated the City has been approved for $60,000 of matching grant monies for roadway improve- ments on PGA Boulevard, from I -95 to Military Trail. ® The City's share will be approximately $63,000. This does not take into consideration future improvements west of Military Trail. Councilman Kiselewski stated commitments were made by the developer of the Radisson and Admiralty projects for intersection improvements, and suggested contacting the developer to determine if there is any interest in assisting the City in this endeavor, in exchange for a reduction of the amount originally committed. Mayor Marcino stated this issue will be discussed at one of the next two meetings. PUBLIC WORKS/ POLICE DEPTS. The City Manager requested the Council compare costs eof using a parcel of land at the RCA property to accom- 5 CITY COUNCIL MEETING 6/20/91 modate part of the Public Works Department versus uti- lizing the DiVosta building for both Public Works and Police Departments. The City Manager advised that either site would be workable, however, a determination must be made as to the amount that could be expect- ed to be realized from the sale of the Public Works property, if, in fact, the property can be sold on the current market, compared to the cost of maintaining both the RCA and Public Works properties. Councilman Kiselewski expressed concern with splitting up the Public Works Department. The City Manager advised that the existing Public Works facility would house only heavy equipment, maintenance shop and gas tanks. Mayor Martino stated this could be discussed during the Capi- tal Improvements budget workshop. REPORTS AND XTENS BY MAY6 ARD COUNCXL MAYOR MARTINO Mayor Martino requested permission for staff to advertise the Surgicenter Comprehensive Plan Amendment and Rezoning as soon as comments are received from the DCA. Per . concensus of the City Council, Mayor Martino's request was approved. Mayor Martino requested permission to wnrk with the City Attorney to prepare an ordinance to reclaim project ghost trips. Per a concensus of the City Council, Mayor Martino's request was approved. 6 CITY COUNCIL MEETING 6/20/91 ® VI EG"LDRED Vice Mayor Aldred reported attending a workshop meeting for the Countywide Planning Council presentation of procedures, under which municipalities will operate under the "Countywide Land Use Element ". Vice Mayor Aldred briefly outlined the procedures and stated he has asked Rich Walton, Director of Planning & Zoning, to prepare a summary indicating the differences between the Countywide Planning Council's performance standards and those of the City. COUNCILMAN RUS$O Councilman Russo reported it is his understanding that residents on silverthorne, adjacent to the Lake Cather- ine PUD, are being told by salespeople that they can ® use Palm Beach Gardens recreation facilities. City Council members advised that no such arrangements were ever discussed. COUNCXLWOMAN MONROE Councilwoman Monroe stated four City Council meet- ings are scheduled for the week of July 29, 1991 and suggested rescheduling one of the budget meetings for another week. Per a concensus of the City Council, the budget meeting scheduled for Monday, July 29, will be rescheduled to Thursday, July 25, 1991. Mayor Martino directed the City Clerk's Department to send a memo to the Council advising of the date change. COUNCILMAN KIS£LEWSKI Councilman Kiselewski reported attending a meeting of the Metropolitan Planning Organization last week. Councilman Kiselewski stated that since the MPO meeting 7 CITY COUNCIL MEETING 6/20/91 COMMG'N'I"5 FROM TBE PUBLIC SAM CARSILLO Sam Carsillo addressed the City Council re: Opening the north side of Holly Drive to traffic, with guardrails for safety of the school children; mainten- ance of the slopes next to I -95; bicycle paths on Mili- tary Trail; and ;rite for a Palm Beach Gardens Library. 8 scheduled for this date was cancelled due to lack of a quorum, the municipalities will be asked to appoint first and second alternate members. Councilman Kiselewski stated he has been receiving calls from residents who feel the telephone poles should be removed along Military Trail. Councilman Kiselewski commented on the newspaper article regarding the Divosta Building artwork, stating he expressed his feelings about this issue at the Arts Advisory Council meeting and quoted from the minutes of that meeting: "Don Kiselewski explained that the intent of the Art ordinance was to place art throughout the City and not to provide a living for artists." PAID! I3P.AQi GARDENS YOUTH ATW-WIC ASSN. Councilman Kiselewski made a motion to provide $100 for each resident member, of the three teams requesting support, with the Palm Beach Gardens Youth Athletic Association (30 residents @ $100 = $3,000), to be taken from Council Contingency, seconded by Councilwoman Monroe. The motion was unanimously approved. COMMG'N'I"5 FROM TBE PUBLIC SAM CARSILLO Sam Carsillo addressed the City Council re: Opening the north side of Holly Drive to traffic, with guardrails for safety of the school children; mainten- ance of the slopes next to I -95; bicycle paths on Mili- tary Trail; and ;rite for a Palm Beach Gardens Library. 8 CITY COUNCIL MEETING 6/20/91 AGENDA Councilwoman Monroe made a motion to approve the follow- ing items on the Consent Agenda, seconded by Councilman Kiselewski. 9 1. Approval of Minutes of 6/6/91 Regular City Council Meeting. 2. Approval of Mnutes of 6/13/91 City Council Special Workshop Meeting. 3. Proclamation - Proclaiming 7/4/91 as Florida veterans Day. 4. Resolution 68, 1991 - Approval of Replat of Graemoor Terrace and Alnwick road. 5. Resolution 69, 1991 - Florida Inland Navigation District Waterways Assistance Program 6. Resolution 77, 1991 - Approving & accepting Appendix to Interlocal Agreement approved by Res. 53, 1990, to Florida Emergency Telephone Act Budget for period of 10/1/91 to 9/30/92 for the E -911 System. 7. Resolution 78, 1991 - Requesting the portion of the Palm Beach County EMS Surcharge Award Program Funds. The motion was unanimously approved by the City Council. `OLUTION 71, 1991 Rich Walton, Director of Planning & Zoning, addressed the City Council regarding the request by Urban Design Studio, authorized agent for Channing Corporation xx, to amind the Villa D'Este PUD to allow for three n•w resi- dential models. Hank Skokcwski, Urban Design Studio, stated the peti- tioner is requesting an amendment to be able to offer the option of 1 -car garages. The additional square footage will be used to enhance the living aad dining areas, not to provide an additional bedroom. Councilman Russo expressed concern with there being no way to monitor the storage situation, and stated that ® with the density of the project, additional on- street parking would he a problem. 9 CITY COUNCIL MEETING 6/20/91 ® Councilwoman Monroe expressed concern that eliminating 2 -car garages would encourage on- street parking on the narrow roads. Mr. Skokowski stated 19 guest parking spaces have been provided, distributed throughout the project, and 8 extra spaces are located at the Recreation Center. After discussion, Councilman Kiselewski made a motion to approve the amendment to villa D'Este PUB, providing for new model homes for the small units only, Models Al and 51, eliminating Model C1, seconded by Vice Mayor Aldred. During discussion, Councilman Russo stated he would not feel comfortable approving the amendment because of the Fire Department's letter expressing concern with access for emergency vehicles, and the possibility of Increased on- street parking. Councilman Russo stated this could pose possible liability to the City. Mayor Martino stated the Fire Department originally approved the project, and concerns should have been addressed at that time. The Deputy City Clerk was directe-1 to make the following amendments to Resolution 71, 1991: Change "three" to "two" models in the title. Change "three" to "two" in Section 1, line 4, and add "Al & B1" after "New Models ". In Section 1, M3 add "Al & B1 only" after "New Models ". Per a concensus of the City Council, the Deputy City ® Clerk read, in its entirety, Resolution 71, 1991, incor- porating the amendments. 10 CITY COUNCIL MEETING 6/20/91 The motion was approved by the City Council with a vote of 3 ayes and 2 nays. The nay votes were cast by Coun- cilwoman Monroe and Councilman Russo, for reasons previ- ously stated. The petitioner was directed to cross out Model C1 on the plans to eliminate any confusion. RESOLUTION 72, 1991 FE-SOLUTM 71, 1991 RMSOLUTT(W 74, 1991 KKSOLUTTOR 75, 1 RESOLUTION 76, 1991 Per a concensus of the City Council, resolutions appointing members to the following advisory boards were postponed to the City Council meeting of July 18, 1991: B & E Committee, Code Enforcement Board, Merit System board, Recreation Advisory Board and Zoning Board of Appeals. ORDINANCE 21, 1991 Per a concensus of the City Council, Ordinance 21, 1991, is to be scheduled for First Reading at the meeting of July 18, 1991. IT124S FOR DISCUSSION WYNFIELD Rich Walton, Planning & Zoning Director, reviewed his memo dated 6/14/91 summarizing the history and status of the Wynfield application. Mr. Walton stated the peti- tioners have requested at least six postponments from the Planning & Zoning Commission agendas, and a required Management Plan still has not been submitted. Raymona Royce, Attorney for the petitioners, addressed • the City Council. stating he does not believe a Manage- 11 CITY COUNCIL MEETING 6/20/91 ® ment Plan is required, however, if it is deemed neces- sary, it will be included in the Homeowners' Documents at time of approval. Mr. Royce rF•c-uested clarification as to when the Manage- ment Plan is required. Councilman Kiselewski asked if the petitioners were willing to make a commitment to meet the County's Traf- fic Performance Standards ordinance. Attorney Royce responded the petitioners are prepared to meet the County standards in effect at the time the Interlocal Agreement was signed. A discussion ensued regarding whether or not Wynfield is a "vested" project. The City Manager stated the peti- tioners believe they are vested and the burden of proof lies with them. Mr. Walton stated the roadway improvements required for this project could total $53 million. Mr. Royce advised that whatever improvements are necessary will be complet- ed as the project develops. Mr. Royce stated the County has coricurred with the list of conditions estab- lished by the Planning and zoning Commission. After further discussion, Vice Mayor Aldred made a motion to reinstate the Wynfield petition, with the provision that prior to issuance of any building permit, a Management Plan be submitted, seconded by Councilman Russo. The motion was unanimously approved by the City Council. 12 WY COUNCIL MEETING 6/20/41 STARWOOD Rich Walton, Planning & Zoning Director, addressed the city Council stating this project has not been heard by the Planning & zoning Commission, and a Traffic Report and Management Plan have not been submitted. Mr. Walton explained that at the time the Starwood application was submitted, an administrative decision was made to pro- ceed with the annexation only, not zoning at that time. In response to questions by Mayor Martino, Mr. Walton stated the application package was considered substan- tially complete. Mayor Martino stated if we accepted the application and they met our requirements, the project should stand. Councilwoman Monroe stated this project has not had the overwhelming problems Wynfield has had and it could have gone forward. Councilman Russo said he agrees, but the petitioners have an investment and they should be al- lowed to go forward. Councilman KiEtelewski expressed concern with the possi- bility of the petitioners obtaining project approval and then selling the propert;. Mr. Macintosh stated he intends to be with the project through its completion. Vice Mayor Aldred made a motion to reinstate the Star - wood petition, seconded by Councilman Russo. During discussion the City Council advised the petition- ers that if more postponements are requested, this approval will be withdrawn. 13 CITY COUNCIL MEETING 6/20/91 SThe motion was approved by the City Council with a vote of 4 ayes and 1 nay, with the nay vote cast by Council- woman Monroe, for reasons previously stated. Comfort Tnrn Rich Walton, Planning & Zoning Director, addressed the City Council regarding a petition by Donaldson Hearing, authorized agent for Devitt - Tolley Partnership, request- ing a 5 -year extention of time for compliance with the requirements of Section 5 of Ordinance 53, 1988, for the Comfort Inn (f /k /a Garden Suites Hotel PUD). In re- sponse to Vice Mayor Aldred, Mr. Walton stated the petitioner has agreed to the Council's proposal, as discussed at the last meeting. Mr. Donaldson Hearing, GBS &H Architects, addressed the City Council stating the petitioner has an obligation to renovate the bank building. Mr. Hearing stated that within 90 days the drive -thru will be removed and the souther'y ingress will be closed and landscaped. Per a concensus of the City Council, the City Attorney was directed to prepare a Resolution, incorporating the agreed -upon compromise. PROSPERITY CENTY -H Mr. Rich Walton, Planning & Zoning Director, addressed the City Council regarding a request by Steve Stevens, authorized agent for Prosperity Centre Associates, to modify the approved site plan for Prosperity Centre PUD 40 by reducing the total square footage from 114,960 sq. ft. to 105,650 sq. ft. Mr. Walton stated the Target 14 *Y COUNCIL MEETING 6/20/91 • IN I:1"ai +ice 10 store petition has been withdrawn. Mr. Steve Stevens, Prosprity Centre Associates, ad- dressed the City Council stating the proposed modifica- tions include eliminating the 2nd story and reducing the size of -the restaurant. A traffic study, prepared by Kimley -Horn, indicates these modifications will reduce traffic by 360 trips per day. In response to Councilwoman Monroe, Mr. Stevens stated new elevations will be provided. Per a concen$us of the City Council, the City Attorney was directed to prepare a Resolution for consideration of approval at the Regular Meeting of July 16, 1991. There being no further business to discuss, the meeting was adjourned at 12:20 —A.M. e MAYOR MICHAEL MARTINO VICE MAYOR DICK ALDRED JEAN LONG, DEEP CITY CLERK 15 COUNCILWOMAN LINDA MONROE COUNCTLI -" DON KISELEWSKI COUSCILMAN JOE RUSSO EXCERPT FROM REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING JUNE 20, 1991 RE: RESOLUTION 71, 1991 Kiselewski: I would move for the adoption of Resolution 71, 1991. Aldred: Second. Martino: Discussion? Russo: Excuse me, Mr. Mayor. I am not going to be voting for this. I think the spirit of cooperation is positive. I think the units still should have been limited- -they weren't. I believe that anytime we vote for an ordinance and for a change and our Fire Department does not give the approval, I believe we are opening ourselves up for liability. If they have to get down the street with the equipment and they can't get down the street, I'd hate to see what could happen with those homes so close together in order to stop a fire. I don't know that this is right either. I don't know that this report is correct, but I believe for the record that this report in order to move liability away from this City Council should be changed to a point whereby either it is a problem or it's not a problem. But I believe if something did happen, this City Council could be sued for not acting properly. Martino: Of further discussion, I have two points. One is... are the site plans that we're talking about going to be attached to this resolution? Are they specific? Why can't we just "X" out the model so there's no question. Okay? Would you... 11X11 the model out? Because if it gets over to the Building Department and then the next thing you know we've got one. As far as the Fire Department is concerned, this is one of the issues probably...I know Pete was here earlier and I said a lot of nice things about him, and I meant everything I said, but I do have a little bit of a disagreement - -not a little bit, a lot of disagreement here - -with the Fire Department putting this thing into the record in the form they did. They reviewed this project to begin with, accepted the streets at this width. There's no reason why you can't move a fire vehicle down a 20- foot wide street even if there is parking there. Beyond that, if there ever is an emergency that requires a fire vehicle to move a vehicle, they are built to such a degree that they are capable of doing that. So Peter needs to ... and the Fire Department need to address these things if they have a problem when they should be addressed and that's when the project was approved. There's nothing on the file to show that they had a problem then. I don't, having built fire equipment, understand why the comment is made the way it is. Fire equipment is not 10 feet wide. Fire equipment is made to specifications and has certain widths so that it can traverse streets in a safe fashion. So I don't understand the comment. I disagree with the comment, and I don't think it opens the City up to any liabilities because it merely conflicts with what they originally laid into the record. And I'm with you Joe, it should be torn from the file and should be retracted, and I would prefer that the Administration gets that handled. H. Skokowski: ..I'll be happy to meet with Mr. Bergel. I frankly think he's misinformed on the project and his opinion will change.... Martino: We need to also have the Administration handle this. Mr. Russo brought it up. Kiselewski: I would submit to you that each street in.the City would have exactly the same problem. There's a 24- foot street in front of my house that I've called the Police Department twice this week for guys parking their lawn maintenance thing on it. Yeah, if you're going to violate the law, you're going to create problems. Martino: That's right. Monroe: Mr. Chairman, I wasn't going to say anything, but based on those two comments I feel compelled to do SO. First of all, Don, I would contend that this is not quite the same as your street. You have wider pavement, you have swales that do not and for the most part have trees parked in ... and there may be a few illegally parked where you can't get an 8- foot vehicle off the road. And some people do park on the street, but at least I think in my neighborhood the majority of the people will pull off in the swale . There's a few that' 11 park on the street that don't want to get in the swale, but generally you're not obligated because of the constraints of ... here you've got trees, you've got driveways where you will probably have two cars in them. You don't have a lot of options in an area like this. You've got 20 feet of pavement and then E the so- called gutter, so you're not going to be able to do anything but keep them in that general area. The second thing that I would like to say is I would hate to think that our Fire Department would be muzzled if that's what they believe, and I think maybe, two things, the first time around when this project came to us, it had a two -car garage. Now they're asking to comment on a change. This isn't what the Fire Department commented on the first time around. This is something new that has a tendency to put more on-the streets. No one's got a crystal ball to know today or 20 years from now how many that might be. But the odds are there will be some more; how many, we don't know. The other thing is if any department within the City or any of us Council members voted one way in the past or had a philosophy in the past and because of experience, maturity, learning, whatever, observation that you change your opinion, I would hate to think that I could never grow in my position. I probably voted ... had considerably different philosophies 10 years ago. Some of them maybe were better, some of them maybe weren't. But I would think also, we were talking about Pete Bergel..., if he's learning from developments in the City that, maybe this isn't the best thing, I want him to have that opportunity to say that. Martino: Nobody's trying to muzzle anybody, Linda. My comments... Monroe: But you're talking about tearing something out of the record...I don't... Martino: My comment is this. It was in response to Joe's comment which he put into the record; it has to be covered. The way Mr. Bergel wrote this letter is in direct conflict with the way the Fire Department approved the project to begin with. If he would have written the letter and made reference to the fact that the reason he now has a concern about this project is the very fact that the models are being changed to one degree or another, I could accept everything you're saying. He's not saying that. He's going right back to the width of the roads which are not a problem. Monroe: But he said elimination of any additional parking spaces will result in on- street parking of guest vehicles. This will present a major problem for Fire Department emergency vehicles emergency access due to the narrow 20 -foot roads. He's directly 3 tieing that to additional cars, not the original approval but to additional vehicles. Martino: He's talking about the width of the pavement. He's talking about narrow 20 -foot roads which are ... you know, I'm not a fire professional, but I want to tell you that the width of the road should have little to do with whether a vehicle can move up and down it. What his problem is, if he's raising a problem, is he is suggesting that because we're eliminating a garage space that vehicle may park on the street. That's where the problem and the rub is. That's what he needs to say. He should not even talk about the width of the pavement. If he wants to say that, I don't have probably a disagreement with that statement; but we cannot let a record of the City Council at anytime suggest that we're putting ourselves in a libelous position. I don't feel we are. I feel that the Fire Department has contradicted itselves here by virtue of this letter. That's all I'm saying, and I think that it's clear... Russo: ...want them to clarify... Martino: We need clarification. Kiselewski: I want one thing understood. I've worked this whole compromise or at least started compromising with the thought that cars that park on the street are going to be ticketed. Monroe: What? How? R. Walton: ...private streets... Monroe: They can park all they want to. Russo: You can't even get down my street in Marlwood in PGA National. It's like a .... the security can't ... they just don't do it. Kiselewski: Now hold on just a minute. We've got an ordinance in the City whether they're private streets or public streets that says you cannot park on a lane of traffic. Yes, we do. Why do you think... Aldred: I don't believe that it pertains to private roads. Russo: ...the police drive up and down PGA National... Martino: The city thinks it doesn't apply, Don, I didn't 4 • think it did either. If there's no other discussion, let's see if we can bring this to a conclusion. All those in favor of the motion, please signify by saying "aye ". opposed? Three, two. (Russo and Monroe voted "no ".) 5