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ART IN PUBLIC PLACES ADVISORY BOARD
DECEMBER 18, 2007
MINUTES
The Art in Public Places Advisory Board convened on December 18, 2007 in the Council
Chambers of the Municipal Complex, located at 10500 North Military Trail, Palm Beach
Gardens, Florida. The meeting was called to order by Lee Bickford, Chair, at 5:32 p.m. A
quorum was declared.
I. CALL TO ORDER
II. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
III. ROLL CALL
Members Present: Lee Bickford, Chair
William Leizman, Vice Chair (left at 6:55 p.m.)
Diane Capella
Ellen Dukes
Karen Hainsworth (arrived 5:39 p.m.)
Lynn Silber (left at 7:05 p.m.)
Cable Neuhaus, 1 st Alternate
Jennifer O'Brien, 2nd Alternate
Members Absent: Myra Davis
Eric Jablin, Council Member, Council Liaison
Also in Attendance: Kara Irwin, Growth Management Administrator
Angela Wong, Community Services, Operations Manager
Marty Minor, Urban Design Studio
Joel Channing, Channing Corporation
Mark Fuller, MTFuller Functional Arts
IV. ADDITIONS, DELETIONS AND MODIFICATIONS
• None.
V. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
MOTION 1
A motion was made,
seconded and passed
minutes of October 16,
2007.
VOTE
Lee Bickford
Yes
William Leizman
Yes
Diane Capella
Yes
Ellen Dukes
Yes
Lynn Silber
Yes
Cable Newhaus
Yes
Jennifer O'Brien
Yes
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unanimously to accept the meeting
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VI. ITEMS BY COUNCIL LIAISON
Kara Irwin, Growth Management Administrator, Staff Liaison, expressed Eric
Jablin's, Council Member, Council Liaison, regrets at missing the meeting because
of a family medical emergency.
At this time (5:39 p.m.) Karen Hainsworth, Board Member, arrived and was seated for
the meeting.
VII. UPDATE BY STAFF LIAISON
Kara Irwin, Growth Management Administrator, Staff Liaison, provided the staff
liaison report:
• In answer to a request at the last meeting, an aerial photograph of the Municipal
Complex was provided, which included the vacant land on Military Trail
between Burns Road to the South and Johnson Dairy Road to the North.
• Ms. Irwin explained the options available and procedures to follow for the board
to go forward with their ideas for a sculpture garden on the noted property.
• Lee Bickford, Chair, stated the sculpture garden would be discussed under Old
Business.
VIII. OLD BUSINESS
Lee Bickford, Chair, opened discussion of the proposed sculpture garden.
• Lee Bickford inquired about the size of the vacant land. Angela Wong
Community Services, Operations Manager, provided the dimension as 1.68
acres.
• Diane Capella, Board Member, stated at one time the purchase of a (Dale)
Chihuly piece was considered for the lake area. She suggested if it is not
suitable for the lake that it should surely be considered for the sculpture garden.
• Lee Bickford stated the requirements for purchasing the Chihuly.
• Discussion ensued regarding the parameters for the sculpture garden and the
possible expenses in its creation.
• Lynn Silber, Board Member, stated the first piece for the sculpture garden
should be important and provide a focal point, to which other board members
agreed.
• Kara Irwin, Growth Management Administrator, Staff Liaison, summarized the
board's intent as: a master plan for multiple locations in the future, for a passive
park that provides locations for the experiences of art throughout, and having a
key piece that may be a water feature.
• Kara Irwin stated the information will be forwarded to Eric Jablin, Council
Member, Council Liaison, to be brought before the City Council for
consideration at the January 3, 2008 meeting under Section V, Items of Resident
Interest and Board/Committee Reports.
• Lee Bickford encouraged all board members to attend the January 3, 2008 City
Council meeting as a show of support for the sculpture garden project.
• Lee Bickford inquired about the status of the PGA Flyover art. Kara Irwin
replied that it is still under review in the Legal Department. William Leizman
inquired about the status of the warranty on the PGA Flyover art.
• Lee Bickford closed the floor to discussion of Old Business.
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I IX. NEW BUSINESS
2 DOUBLETREE HOTEL PUD AIPP WORKSHOP (Condition 1. Resolution 128, 2006)
3 Lee Bickford, Chair, opened discussion for the DoubleTree Hotel PUD workshop
4 for the artwork, Triads, by artist Mark Fuller.
5 • Marty Minor, Urban Design Studios, stated he represents the DoubleTree Hotel
6 owner, E &J Properties; Joel Charming represents Channing Corporation; and
7 Mark Fuller, the artist, represents MTFULLER Functional Arts.
8 • Marty Minor provided the information about the location of the project and the
9 history of the site.
10 • Marty Minor presented other work by artist Mark Fuller.
11 • Marty Minor then described the present work under consideration and invited
12 Mark Fuller to give further details.
13 • Mark Fuller, artist, demonstrated light reflecting through the triads of his model.
14 He explained the variances in shape and color at different times of the day. Mr.
15 Fuller stated the opportunity to do a project like this is very limited because it
16 requires Southern and Western wall exposure, which this project has.
17 • Lee Bickford complimented Mark Fuller on the art he has installed in Legacy
18 Place and inquired about the number of art pieces he has in Palm Beach
19 Gardens. Mark Fuller replied that he is unsure of the number, but he does have
20 pieces located in PGA Commons, Legacy Place and what used to be the Sun
21 Trust Bank.
22 • Lee Bickford expressed her concerns that Mr. Fuller may have too many pieces
23 of art in Palm Beach Gardens.
24 • William Leizman, Vice Chair, expressed his concern about only one artist
25 giving a presentation. His understanding is that there would be three artists for
26 each project. He also stated that PGA and Northlake Boulevards are beginning
27 to look like penny arcades because some of the work presented does not come
28 before the board. Mr. Leizman inquired about possibilities of different shapes
29 being used besides the triad in Mr. Fuller's work for the long -term storage
30 building.
31 • Mark Fuller explained the triads are the best light- reflecting shape for the
32 materials being used in the project.
33 • William Leizman inquired if the artist has done this type of piece anywhere
34 else. Mark Fuller replied that he has not.
35 • William Leizman inquired if the artist had considered using neon. Mark Fuller
36 replied that he has not.
37 • Kara Irwin clarified that an applicant can bring three separate artists before the
38 board for consideration or hire a consultant who chooses the artist or the art
39 form they want to pursue. The purview is whether or not the board considers the
40 artist a real artist. The board can look at location, the art piece itself and whether
41 or not the artist can be considered an artist. When choosing art for the City the
42 board can hire a consultant who would bring back pieces for consideration. The
43 project under consideration is art on private property and through the process
44 the City does want to encourage art. The owner can workshop a project if they
45 wish. William Leizman stated that three artists should have been brought before
46 the board for consideration. Kara Irwin explained that is not what the Code says.
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Joel Channing, Channing Corporation, stated that he likes and respects Mark
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Fuller and his work. Mr. Channing likes the new and innovative material being
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used for the project. The cost is $100,000. Mr. Channing is an architect by
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profession. He sees this project as a great opportunity to do something with
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light. Mr. Channing expressed his surprise that the board members did not
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embrace the project. Mr. Channing stated that he will not provide more diversity
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because Mark Fuller is his choice he likes and trusts him.
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Cable Neuhaus, Board 1 st Alternate, inquired about maintenance.
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Mark Fuller described the material to be used for the project, which is a 3MTM
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product. All indications are the material is fine.
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Diane Capella, Board Member, expressed her support for this project citing its
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innovation and beauty.
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Lee Bickford quoted Joel Channing stating, "We did it in the butterfly and we
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did it in the fish." Lee Bickford expressed her opinion that it has "been done."
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Joel Channing stated there is no refraction of light going into the butterfly and
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the fish and this project is a different use. Mr. Channing expressed regret that
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Lee Bickford did not like the art.
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Mark Fuller described the process he used before making a decision.
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Diane Capella stated she believes this is as diverse a project as she has ever
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seen; that she has never seen anything like it before.
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Jennifer O'Brien, Board 2nd Alternate, inquired about light creating different
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shapes.
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Joel Channing stated different light patterns were tried, but the outcome was too
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busy.
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Lynn Silber, Board Member, asked Kara Irwin to expand on her explanation of
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the board's responsibilities.
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Kara Irwin explained the Art in Public Places Advisory Board code requirement
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and purview.
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Discussion ensued regarding the board's responsibilities and limitations.
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Lee Bickford asked the board members for justification of so many pieces of art
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by the same artist within miles of each other. Ms. Bickford stated her opinion is
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not personal regarding Mr. Fuller.
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Mark Fuller stated Ms. Bickford's comments had everything to do with him and
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that he is sorry Ms. Bickford feels as she does.
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Joel Channing stated he believes the board's responsibility is to critique a piece
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of art on its merits. Mr. Channing stated that he is taking Mark Fuller with him
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to the next meeting and before Council.
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Lynn Silber inquired if the board has the right to stop a developer from using a
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particular artist.
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Lee Bickford explained the board does not have the right to tell a developer he
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cannot use a particular artist, but the board can go before Council and list all of
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the art Mark Fuller has in the City and ask how many pieces one artist should be
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allowed to do. The City Council will then take the issue under consideration.
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William Leizman requested two more artists come before the board for
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consideration. He expressed his distaste for the PGA Commons butterfly and
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school of fish. Mr. Leizman stated there should be a neon sign up because the
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entire area looks terrible and is not sculpture. Mr. Leizman expressed his
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I preference for (Auguste) Rodin, form and no color. He does like the art on the
2 building. He believes that the "fish" and the "butterfly" are wonderful for the
3 people, but they are not art.
4 • Diane Capella expressed her disagreement. Ms. Capella stated that it is art and
5 times and materials change and we are in the 21st century and have access to
6 newer materials and newer technologies; color is not a bad thing.
7 • Cable Neuhaus stated that we live in a pretty City, but it is characterized by few
8 pieces of exceptional architecture and art. He is in favor of being "wild" at some
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10 DOUBLETREE HOTEL PUD AIPP WORKSHOP STATEMENT
11 The workshop statement put forth is either in support of (yes) or opposed to (no)
12 this artist and developer with this project (DoubleTree Hotel PUD). Each board
13 member expressed direction for Mr. Fuller and reason for their vote.
14 VOTE
15 Lee Bickford, Chair No — No comment.
16 William Leizman, Vice Chair No — Would like to see two more choices.
17 Diane Capella Yes — Possible variation in size or shape.
18 Ellen Dukes Yes — Approval of the project as it stands.
19 Lynn Silber Yes — See something different from what is on
20 street.
21 Karen Hainsworth Yes — Would like to see three choices.
22 Cable Neuhaus Yes — See something else that had been considered
23 by the team.
24 Jennifer O'Brien Yes — Would like to know the thought process of
25 how the team arrived at the piece presented.
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27 Lee Bickford invited the members of the DoubleTree Hotel PUD project to return to
28 the next meeting and bring other materials or ideas they would like to present for
29 consideration. At that time there will be a formal review for an official vote for City
30 Council consideration. Discussion ensued between Lee Bickford and Mark Fuller.
31 The floor was closed to further discussion.
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33 LATITUDES IN THE GARDENS MXD /PCD AIPP WORKSHOP
34 Lee Bickford, Chair, opened discussion for the Latitudes in the Gardens workshop
35 for the artwork, The Sphere, by artist Mark Fuller.
36 • MarkFuller, artist, representing his client, Shapiro Portnoy, stated the sculpture
37 will be located off of Central and Victoria Falls Boulevards. The project
38 consists of two three -story office buildings. The sculpture will be located in the
39 central courtyard between the two buildings. His proposal is a wind sphere
40 (model presented). Mr. Fuller described the engineering including its movement
41 and lockdown ability. It will have simplicity bearings that do not require
42 lubricant and can carry heavy loads.
43 • Lynn Silber inquired about the weight. Mr. Fuller described the material
44 composition as very strong: aluminum skin laminated to polycarbonate
45 honeycomb. His weight estimate is under 1,000 pounds.
46 • William Leizman inquired about the thickness of the stainless steel. Mr. Fuller
47 stated the stainless steel is .020 gauge thickness and the core is 16 mm (five -
48 eighths of an inch) composite polycarbonate honeycomb.
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1 • Mr. Fuller described the pedestal bases that are under consideration.
2 • Mr. Fuller answered further questions regarding structural engineering and
3 design.
4 • Cable Neuhaus inquired if the board is involved in choosing a pedestal. He
5 expressed his preference for height to raise the piece up.
6 • Lynn Silber inquired if the pedestal would have a water feature.
7 • Mr. Fuller described possible options for the pedestal, including a water feature.
8 • Mr. Fuller discussed finishes.
9 • Lee Bickford asked Mr. Fuller to bring possible suggestions for the pedestal
10 when he returns.
11 • Lee Bickford inquired about the site.
12 • Kara Irwin, Growth Management Administrator, Staff Liaison, described the
13 site location and surrounding roadways.
14 • Kara Irwin described the protected environmental location.
15 • Lee Bickford requested base options be shown when Mr. Fuller returns.
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17 LATITUDES IN THE GARDENS MXD/PCD AMP WORKSHOP STATEMENT
18 The workshop statement put forth supports artist Mark Fuller and his piece, The
19 Sphere. Each board member expressed direction for Mr. Fuller.
20 VOTE
21 Lee Bickford, Chair Yes — Maintain height, public access
22 Diane Capella Yes — Finish
23 Ellen Dukes Yes — Disappointed in location
24 Karen Hainsworth Yes — Environmentally friendly
25 Lynn Silber Yes — Cleaning/maintenance by owner
26 Cable Neuhaus Yes — Night lighting
27 Jennifer O'Brien Yes — Make it appear to defy gravity
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29 William Leizman, Vice Chair, left meeting at 6:55 p.m.
30 Lynn Silber, Board Member, left meeting at 7:05 p.m.
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X11. ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business to come before the board, a motion was made, seconded
and carried unanimously to adjourn the meeting at 7:10 p.m.
APPROVED: !/!
Attest:
Lee Bickford, Chair V —)
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William-Lei
Diane Cappella
Myra Dav
F,llen Dukes
Karen Hainsworth
Lynn Silber
Cable Neuhaus.flst Alternate
Jennifer O'Brien, 2nd Alternate
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Donna M. Cannon
Municipal Services Coordinator
NOTE: These action minutes are prepared in compliance with 286.011 F.S. and are not verbatim
transcripts of the meeting. A verbatim audio recording is available from the Office of the City Clerk.
All referenced attachments on file in the City Clerk's office.
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